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Post by Adam on Nov 23, 2008 17:14:34 GMT -5
He is now writing, producing, and directing a new feature film/documentary titled "America...From Freedom To Fascism". The film is an expose of the Internal Revenue Service, and proves conclusively there is no law requiring an American citizen to pay a direct unapportioned Tax on their labor. The film is very provocative and is receiving standing ovations at its previews. www.freedomtofascism.com/ |
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Post by Adam on Nov 23, 2008 17:28:47 GMT -5
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Post by Adam on Nov 23, 2008 18:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by stephen on Nov 23, 2008 19:23:49 GMT -5
Hi David, I met Aaron Russo at the premiere of his film here in Las Vegas. He is a very bright documentary filmmaker. I talked with him for a while after the showing of his film. I was impressed with him and with his film. He ran for governor here some years back. I was saddened to find out that he passed away about a month or so ago after a long battle with cancer. I think the film is a powerful expose. I have had a link to it on my www.theflickchicks.com website for years. I need to put it back on my site since I revamped the whole site about a month ago. His film is definitely worth seeing. Thanks for putting up the links. |
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Post by stephen on Nov 24, 2008 4:01:11 GMT -5
It has been a while since I viewed the film, so please correct me if I am wrong but I think the only element Aaron Russo missed was communism and how it is playing a role in today's political scene. The film is a few years old already.
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Post by ophello on Nov 24, 2008 5:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by stephen on Nov 24, 2008 9:39:34 GMT -5
The NYT does not have it right with regard to Irwin Schiff or Aaron Russo or IRS law. Paying Income taxes is, by IRS rules, "VOLUNTARY"...having errors on your forms has a long list of laws and regulations and penalties which govern it. NYT has a real bias in the matter. I live in Las Vegas and I remember the Schiff case very well (my wife writes for the Las Vegas Tribune...the only independent paper in Las Vegas). The judge in that case considered himself above the law and Schiff went to jail because of it. Irwin Schiff made a case for the law and the judge was quoted as saying "I don't care what the law says...you're going to jail". This is why Irwin Schiff sits in jail. Op, don't be naive, the IRS is very powerful and does not want to see any changes in that position of power. By the way, the Shiff case was not about Schiff not paying taxes, but rather it was about that fact that he gave advice to others who lost money and got into IRS trouble when they improperly tried to implement his advice. The Schiff case is not well understood and is often used as a scare tactic to any who would try to uphold the law (or lack thereof) with regard to paying income taxes. The IRS loves to site this case as a deterrent when in fact the case has less to do with IRS law than it does liability in giving out tax advice. I think Aaron Russo made a very good case, but the justice system is corruptible and I would warn any would be Irwin Schiffs out there that they will face insurmountable odds if their case goes to a judge for a decision. Few will be willing to stand against such a power as the IRS...even if the law so states. |
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Post by Adam on Nov 24, 2008 14:27:24 GMT -5
Stephen, I think you have covered the subject well. Threw first person experience. I think Mr. Russo left behind a good work.
The IRS in terms of Income Tax in the PRIVATE, SECTOR. Has no legal
standing. However with a growing population of Americans dependent
upon government, the IRS is empowered in a sick dance of the slow to die.
This is an example were being meek, or humble...gets ones left cheek
smacked as well.
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Post by Adam on Nov 24, 2008 14:53:43 GMT -5
"It has been a while since I viewed the film, so please correct me if I am wrong but I think the only element Aaron Russo missed was communism and how it is playing a role in today's political scene. The film is a few years old already".
Dave: Well I don't speak for Mr. Russo as you know. However - he stayed true to the facts. Painting the picture red or green - would have given his detractors the unreasonable assertion the he was a nut job. Mr. Russo goal was to reach an audience. MSM would have launched a counter campaign me thinks.
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Post by ophello on Nov 24, 2008 20:57:34 GMT -5
If you recall, it was ME that championed the film "Zeitgeist: Addendum" which basically covers all of the material in "Freedom to Facism" and more.
I posted the link to the NYT so that another point of view could be presented. I didn't necessarily agree with it.
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Post by stephen on Nov 24, 2008 21:05:58 GMT -5
If you recall, it was ME that championed the film "Zeitgeist: Addendum" which basically covers all of the material in "Freedom to Facism" and more. I posted the link to the NYT so that another point of view could be presented. I didn't necessarily agree with it. OK...Cool |
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Post by max on Nov 24, 2008 21:19:15 GMT -5
Op said: And here's a NYT rebuttal (interesting read).
Stephan said: The NYT does not have it right with regard to Irwin Schiff or Aaron Russo or IRS law.
I didn't read the NYT- I won't waste my time.
IF the NYT does not have it right then it's not a rebuttal, it's a lie.
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Post by stephen on Nov 24, 2008 21:54:59 GMT -5
Op said: And here's a NYT rebuttal (interesting read). Stephan said: The NYT does not have it right with regard to Irwin Schiff or Aaron Russo or IRS law. I didn't read the NYT- I won't waste my time. IF the NYT does not have it right then it's not a rebuttal, it's a lie. What!...the New York Times LIE?  |
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Post by ophello on Nov 25, 2008 19:04:09 GMT -5
The NYT is not all lies. That sort of simple thinking is useless.
Better to blame this writer or a particular article.
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Post by max on Nov 25, 2008 19:33:58 GMT -5
Normally, I wouldn’t have replied to Op and Stephens’ conversation but this thread is titled, “From Freedom to Fascism”. Propaganda is the main tool used by those who are destroying our liberties. Cal’s website, it can be said, is dedicated to TRUTH. Propaganda by nature is not truth but twisted lies made to make those who do not use logic ‘feel’ bad or good, depending on their desired outcome. On this website [Cal's] those who use logic KNOW the MSM, and this includes the NYT, IS hard-core communist propaganda. Thus, it can NEVER be a true rebuttal, or a difference of opinion. Just because you feel or think that it is, doesn’t make it so. For many decades, the hard-core left has been using the same propaganda tactic Op used in saying ‘the NYT article is a rebuttal’ or ‘a different opinion’. I know that since the early Walter Cronkite days the MSM has pushed their communist agenda; steadily and progressively [pun intended] moving further and further to the left – from socialism to full blown communism. Whether the MSM was doing it before Cronkite I can’t say for sure, but I wouldn’t doubt it since Roger Baldwin started the aclu in the early 30’s [1931?] and there were communist movements in this country long before him. The issue I have with it is this: Op said ‘he didn’t necessarily agree’ but he posted it anyway. This says that he indeed is what Baldwin (aclu founder) called the ‘useful idiot’. Baldwin said, of those who started the progressive communist movement, that they KNEW it was about Communism; and those (liberals) who just think it is about liberalism are ‘useful idiots’. But, Op is an extra special kind of ‘useful idiot’ because he is willing to spread propaganda that he doesn’t even believe!!! Roger would be proud! The other option is that Op lied and he truly does believe the NYT but didn’t want to admit it on Cal’s site. IF Op really thought he was just posting a rebuttal, it came from the MSM, thus it still makes it communist propaganda. The issue of the MSM and communist propaganda has been discussed on this website and others ad infinitum. Either way Op has shown again that he’s a liberal at heart. Hollis and Akira both also use communist propaganda statements like this and yet they too wonder why they are called liberals. Conservatives that are aware of the communist agenda and their tactics have heard ALL these lies before, too many times – that is why it is easy to pick out using just logic. ALL 3 are called liberals because on this site a spade is called a spade, propaganda is propaganda, just as evil is evil and good is good. Communist propaganda says, ‘one persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter’, forgetting that EVIL is still EVIL. And you can’t call evil good unless it’s propaganda. There is no my truth and your truth – only THE TRUTH. I guess the NYT could make a mistake and actually print something that is true... the 'date' is probably true, but I won't hold my breath on the rest. In Baldwins days they had been called progressives until people started understanding it was communism. The name changed to 'liberalism' ... today they are changing it back to 'progressive' - THAT is nothing new. ...and yes the progressive insurance ceo is a communist and gives $4 million or more (from the company's charity money) each year to the aclu. |
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