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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 13:57:46 GMT -5
Great article "Any Group of Americans Opposed to BO Could Be Considered A Conspiracy" storyreportscomments.blogspot.com/2008/11/any-group-of-americans-opposed-to.html[Copied from article] The 3rd Infantry Division ... In the fall of 2008, elements of the Division’s 1st Brigade were deployed for active duty on U.S. soil as a part of the “Global War on Terror.” The deployment is currently highly controversial. ... As reported in the Army Times in late September 2008, the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has been deployed to active duty on American soil for 12 months for what is expected will be a permanent mission to respond to the threat of terrorist attacks on American soil and control crowds of American citizens in the case of mass civil unrest. ... On October 4, 2008, public intellectual Naomi Wolf made a talk radio appearance to warn of the Global War on Terror combat deployment of the unit on U.S. soil, following the dissolution of the 1807 Insurrection Act and the 1877 Posse Comitatus Act which occurred with the passage of the Defense Authorization Act of 2007. Section 1076 of the 2007 Act is entitled, "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies." Section 333, "Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law" allows the President to deploy the armed forces to restore public order when the President determines that domestic insurrection has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of a U.S. State or territory are incapable of, "refuse," or "fail" in maintaining public order, "in order to suppress, in any State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy." This should make every American wake up to the real possibility of the Military being used against American citizens for "political purposes" because of the wording of Section 333," " The president determines", "authorities of a U.S. State "refuse, or fail", "in order to suppress", a, "conspiracy". What if the "conspiracy" was the lawful assembly of citizens demanding the impeachment and removal of the president of the U.S. or any other "conspiracy" the "president" deems domestic insurrection. This is carte blanche available to the "president" also for "political purposes" because of the word "conspiracy" ... Cast dissent as "treason" and criticism as "espionage'or a "conspiracy". Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of "spy" and "traitor". [Congressman] Brad Sherman claimed that United States Congress was threatened with martial law if the Bernanke/Paulson Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was not passed. ... Stop copied portion Apparently, all the branches of the military have been deployed to take care of 'civil unrest'. Read the entire article and watch some of the video's if you can.... this is just another step on the march towards full communism - 'the president determines'. modified portion: I don't agree with everything Naomi says but she does make some really good points. She puts the 'bailout' ALL on Bush but forgets that the Dems are the majority in Congress... hmmm. |
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Nov 21, 2008 15:21:11 GMT -5
Max
Assuming this story is true, then take note that this deployment has been made by Bush! and not Obama.
It begs the question of why bush would be expecting unrest? Berg?
During the Clinton Administration a questionaire was circulated in the armed forces.
Two questions were of note
1. Would you accept orders from a United Nations command.
2. Would you fire upon american citizens.
The answers were
No
and FU No!
If Bush is expecting 'unrest', it begs the question of what does he know we don't?
Have the Supreme's been chatting with the President?
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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 19:03:28 GMT -5
Cal, as a Marine (served under Reagan and Clinton 82-91) I got to answer F NO as many times as possible. You can imagine how pissed off ALL the Marines were reading and answering that crap - we all got pretty steamed where I worked ... Especially, since Hillary had already forced the Marines in the White House to NOT wear their uniforms (no cameras please) since they were considered too intimidating!
I caught that it was under Bush - and yes it could have been because of Berg and/or other lawsuits ... I haven't trusted Bush for a while... but he was better than the alternative (I thought)...
This is getting interesting!
[Have the Supreme's been chatting with the President? Cal]
Was this rhetorical? If not, what are you referring to?
IMO Bush should have expected unrest with all his bad policies.
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Post by e-Male on Nov 21, 2008 19:35:40 GMT -5
Cal, as a Marine (served under Reagan and Clinton 82-91) I got to answer F NO as many times as possible. You can imagine how pissed off ALL the Marines were reading and answering that crap - we all got pretty steamed where I worked ... Especially, since Hillary had already forced the Marines in the White House to NOT wear their uniforms (no cameras please) since they were considered too intimidating! Hi, Max. Nice to find yet another one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. I can almost sympathize with the Hildabeast. After all, the Clintons clearly detested our military and we are intimidating, especially in Dress Blues !!! I would imagine what Cal is referring to are the multiple suits working their way up to SCOTUS regarding BO's ineligibility. See the thread on "Obama - Messiah or Idiot". /e |
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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 20:16:18 GMT -5
I would imagine what Cal is referring to are the multiple suits working their way up to SCOTUS regarding BO's ineligibility. See the thread on "Obama - Messiah or Idiot". /e I see... I have recently posted in that thread about the cases but, I realize now that i may have been naive in thinking that SCOTUS would be IN with POTUS in a plan to undermind MORE of our rights. As if the President and Congress' actions weren't enough... now the 3rd side of the beast rears its head. I am not a conspiracist, never have been. But, I shudder for America - most are asleep at the wheel. |
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Post by hollis on Nov 21, 2008 20:48:51 GMT -5
This action began to broil in the Army long before primary season even started for the election. The stink belongs in President Bush's pants and in the Congress', no where. I don't think any interaction with the supreme court was going on considering the number of years that the Army has been preparing for this.
PS Hilarious that the article cited a certain Naomi Wolf, frequent contributor to "The Nation."
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Nov 21, 2008 20:56:55 GMT -5
Max
Were I on the Supreme Court and 'knew' this was coming down against Obama and the traditional proclivity of blacks to riot, burn and kill, I'd give the executive branch at least 36 hours advance notice before the publication of the ruling. Otherwise, all jurisdictions would be caught with their pants down.
In such situations - the typical orders are - shoot to kill.
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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 21:28:12 GMT -5
Max Assuming this story is true, then take note that this deployment has been made by Bush! and not Obama. It begs the question of why bush would be expecting unrest? Berg? Cal, Hal Turner said, "The government knows "something big" is coming; they just don't know what. They are mailing "general mobilization" letters to EVERY former member of EVERY branch of the U.S. military, no matter their age or physical capability, telling them to prepare for recall into the armed forces for a "general mobilization." The last time the USA made a general mobilization was in December, 1941." The article has an interview that has more information... I think this is real. The interview raises a point... since ALL officers got their letters on Veterans Day, and Warrant Officers, Sergeants and Corporals are supposed to get theirs in the coming weeks that they are removing any 'leadership' from the communities. Hal's article: Something Incredible Is About To Happen halturnershow.blogspot.com/2008/11/something-incredible-is-about-to-happen.htmlInfo concerning the Power Plants: Largest Military Recall Since 1941 Possibly in Progress Right Now. rightsoup.com/breaking-largest-military-recall-since-1941-possibly-in-progress-right-now/ [Copied from article] ... American Electric Power, one of the nation’s largest electricity providers, has reportedly moved 45-50 housing trailers to it’s Gavin power plant in Ohio. These trailers are equipped with beds and MREs, and reportedly many power facilities are doing the same thing AEP is doing. There is also chatter about some of our battleships mobilizing to the Persian Gulf. Could something be happening with Iran? Or could our military be preparing for a domestic problem? [Stop Copied Portion] On the military recall the most telling bit of info came from a Marine who retired in 1986. He received a recall letter to active duty ... see his info here: Evidence of General Mobilization, Rightsoup investigates: rightsoup.com/evidence-of-general-mobilization-right-soup-investigates/ His letter stated: "... You have been selected for recall to active duty for a period of not less than three years; or a period of time which will extend beyond your 55th birthday or 30 years active Federal service whichever is sooner and; You will not be eligible for voluntary release from active duty during the period of service for which recalled, but may be released from active duty for the convenience of the Government; and while recalled to active duty," I haven't listened to the [3 days of] radio shows done on the recall - this article states, "Republic Broadcast Network: 3 days with shows dealing with mobilization: click on the appropriate hour’s MP3 to listen. The 11/17 2nd hour broadcast at around 4:05 states “ calling up ALL commissioned and non-commissioned military, not just some but ALL.” Due to a large amount of interest in this matter, and a large number of websites linking to the show, the Pentagon were notified of the broadcast and asked for a complete transcript of the show. The Pentagon then reassured the broadcaster that there was no reason to worry, and that the recall was solely for “hunting down terrorists” or repairing ravaged properties ..." 'Repairing ravaged properties' sounds like riots and civil mayhem to me. |
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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 21:32:44 GMT -5
Max Were I on the Supreme Court and 'knew' this was coming down against Obama and the traditional proclivity of blacks to riot, burn and kill, I'd give the executive branch at least 36 hours advance notice before the publication of the ruling. Otherwise, all jurisdictions would be caught with their pants down. In such situations - the typical orders are - shoot to kill. This makes perfect sense.... I just hadn't thought of it... It's not a conspiracy just common sense. I have never been where there were riots, I only saw them on TV. Thanks for the connecting of dots. |
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Post by max on Nov 21, 2008 22:03:45 GMT -5
Hi, Max. Nice to find yet another one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. ... we are intimidating, especially in Dress Blues !!! I meant to tell you before that I liked your response to Cals question "Why would anyone join the Marine Corps". When I thought about it I thought "Why would anyone want to be on the Praetorian Guard." To me it's the same thing. I used to jokingly tell people I joined the Marine Corps because we had one thing in common... we were both "Looking For A Few Good Men"! OOH-RAH!! ... and yes I found many Good Men and Women. |
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Post by hollis on Nov 21, 2008 23:37:37 GMT -5
Okay, SERIOUSLY? You're seriously considering this conspiracy theory? No one has recalled me to active duty or anyone I know. Someone is full of BS.
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Nov 21, 2008 23:41:40 GMT -5
On the other hand, they identified a missing gene necessary for inclusion into the Marines. Everyone else with normal genetics - goto the army  |
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Nov 22, 2008 0:07:04 GMT -5
Max
There are a limited number of possibilities (excluding my own).
1. Obama becomes president.
2. The Economy is already removing their money from the stock and commodities market in expectation of increased penalities (taxes) promised by Obama.
3. We go into a depression.
4. No one stands in line to starve to death.
5. Civil War.
5a. such an event would provide an excuse for some to settle scores.
5b. Any situation that causes whites to draw guns, would be bloody.
5c. In all likelihood - such a situation would be the culmination of numerous things. The real question - where is the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Note, Democrats have a long history of fiscal incompetence and don't 'believe' they could kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
The truth is - they can. However, as long as they get theirs, everyone else can goto hell.
Next Scenario
1. The Son's of Liberty revive the Liberty Tree and begin to target the Communists executing prominent members via assisination.
2. Army deployed to protect them
Next Scenario
Obama fails at the Supreme Court
1. Blacks riot. Troops deployed.
2. White's would not take up arms unless in self defense.
Next Scenario
Bush declares martial law and refuses to leave office.
1. Troops would be deployed primarily to protect him.
In any of these situations, Illegal Aliiens would remain quiet or
go home - having no dog in the fight - they'd not want to risk getting killed.
In the event of civil war - illegals would not fare well on the score settling. Nor would the Jessie Jackson - Al Sharpton types.
The thing that bothers me somewhat is that I've been hearing words like 'civil war' on TV and radio. They're said almost in passing but clearly the thought is out there and its scope greater than my little forum.
The biggest problem with a civil war scenario are the 'factions'.
Once the gov is out of the way (and that would be no small thing), then they turn on each other fighting for who is going to be boss. Anarchy results and the pretense of rule of law, is reduced to the law of the gun - survival of the fittest.
Next Scenario
Obama becomes president - declares martial law and uses it to enslave the nation. (This incidentally is my #1 on Obama's wish list - having gotten instruction from his buddy Hugo Chavez).
1. Whites go to the guns.
2. The military may do so also - but not against the people.
Next Scenario
Obama becomes president - bides his time - assembles his Gestapo using Congress to restrict personal freedom. At some point, he goes to martial law and unleashes his Gestapo. Its my feeling such a force would be principally black. Now it comes down to whether whites will sit still while blacks kill whites with impunity (under the color of law). I'd file this one under 'not a chance'
There would have to be a contrived emergency giving Obama the pretense of a real need and it would probably make Osama look like a choir boy.
Last scenario
Everything is okay and we're all FOS
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Post by Adam on Nov 22, 2008 1:49:58 GMT -5
Last scenario
Everything is okay and we're all FOS
Dave comment: No one believes that ( those with both sides of the brain in order).
Bush declares martial law and refuses to leave office.
1. Troops would be deployed primarily to protect him.
Dave comment: Seems like a Bush move to me. After all both Presidential nominees are not Natural Citizens.
Bush did (I guess) allow the Department of Treasury to do its (his) thing. Looking more like the puppet master has an opportunity ....to yank the strings of both parties. To a beholding supreme court. How many Supreme's did he appoint. And Obama disrespected one of them.
I suspect Bush has four he might be able to count on. And all the money.
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Post by Adam on Nov 22, 2008 1:59:33 GMT -5
Another thought, members of Congress as I recall were informed that
martial law was in play if the did not vote for the bail out.
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