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Post by max on Nov 24, 2008 17:11:29 GMT -5
Max There are a limited number of possibilities (excluding my own). ... Next Scenario Bush declares martial law and refuses to leave office. ... The thing that bothers me somewhat is that I've been hearing words like 'civil war' on TV and radio. They're said almost in passing but clearly the thought is out there and its scope greater than my little forum. ... Cal, I thought that you’d given this scenario before (could be wrong). But, at the time, I didn’t think it was feasible. I just couldn’t imagine a scenario where that would happen. Now that the Donofrio’s case is Distributed for Conference (5 Dec) and the presidency rests with the 9 Supremes… Well, I’m beginning to see it now. Thanks for stating it again. I too hear 'civil war' in places, or from people, I didn't think probable yet. A side note: I have only recently become aware of Hal Turner - I watched his AMERO video yesterday .... very interesting. [Paraphrased from his site] Hal Turner stated today that the state and local police, feds, and homeland security were parked outside his house. Pictures on his site. He wrote an OPINION TWO years ago that they are using to say he incited the overthrow of our government and to kill the communists in congress. Now it seems that Hal Turner is POSSIBLY About To Be Arrested Update on Feds, State, and Local Cops at my house right now halturnershow.blogspot.com/2008/11/update-on-fed-state-local-cops-at-my.htmlI know the left calls him a Nazi ( takes one to know one LOL - I couldn't resist.) but they also say that about Sean Hannity; they claim he is his friend. I do not know if they are friends or if Hal is but, I KNOW Sean Hannity is NOT. Max
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Post by Parn on Nov 24, 2008 17:41:21 GMT -5
They throw terms like that around so much, yet have no idea what it really means.
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Post by Abdiel on Nov 24, 2008 23:20:22 GMT -5
I just researched 511 a little more. ... It is just a resolution. non-binding (no force of law). It has not been considered by the house yet, so it is dead in that sense. EXACTLY. Leo Donofrio is well aware of it, in his own words "has the same effect that our conversation over the phone", i.e. no legal effect, but they make it look like a law. Further, it was passed for the benefit of McCain, conveniently it suits Obama very well. It's interesting to notice a pattern that Michael Savage has also pointed out, that McCain maybe complicit or has being played for a chump all this time. If you are interested in listening in words of Donofrio, the subtleties of the case you can listen to the radio interview he gave. To Plains Radio Show. Non directly related, but interesting is that Donofrio is accomplished poker player . Abdiel.
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Post by Jerseyboy on Nov 25, 2008 9:17:25 GMT -5
I still think that the fact this resolution was initiated in April and cosponsored by BO and BILLARY can indicate that their collective handlers may have known all along the slim chance of SCOTUS allowing this to happen, and that even those handling the "right" (not conservative but neo-CON) side of the equation are prepared to use the fall out as an opportunity to provoke just enough havoc as to justify a broad grab of power and control over civilian infrastructure under the banner of martial law.
As a matter of fact, the machinations of both groups and the extremists that they incite could occur simultanously.
My father, who is multi Generational Irish, has told me that the only thing he ever feared might happen in his lifetime (65 now) that would be hard for America to handle is Islamic extremist war against Christians/Jews on our soil. This would be healthy fear, because he is actually the "fearless" type.
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Post by max on Nov 25, 2008 15:15:46 GMT -5
Another thought, members of Congress as I recall were informed that martial law was in play if the did not vote for the bail out. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson was the one that threatened congress with 'Martial Law'. see: www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=136421Note: if you have to click on a button in order to get into the site, you are taken to the first page containing a list of articles. This article is towards the bottom, about 3/4ths of the way down the page. The article name is 'Paulson Threatened Martial Law If Bailout Wasn't Passed'. The info underneath the headline is: tangodog -- Sunday, 23 November 2008, 2:43 a.m From article (there are a few articles there now - all pertinent) Sen. James Inhofe (R-Ok.) said yesterday that it was Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson who personally told Congressmen that there would be martial law in America if they did not pass the bailout of the banks as demanded by the Bush Administration. On Oct. 2, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) said on the House floor that "Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple of thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no."
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Post by Adam on Nov 25, 2008 17:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by max on Nov 25, 2008 18:45:11 GMT -5
Yes, the link itself works. Question: Did you want to link to the oxysearch page which displays 3 links for inhofe paulson articles. The 3 articles titles are 1-Green Screen, 2-Bear 3-Inhofe: Paulson. [It looks like the first 2 articles also link to the 3rd - which is why all 3 articles came up in the search.] Was your intent to go to oxysearch? OR were you trying to go to just one page - the third one on the oxysearch list? Also listed below www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/11/22/inhofe-paulson-threatened-martial-law.html
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Post by max on Nov 25, 2008 18:53:12 GMT -5
Non directly related, but interesting is that Donofrio is accomplished poker player . Abdiel. Donofrio quit law when he realized that no matter how good his arguments were the communist judges didn't follow the constitution or laws, they made their own laws... IF conservative judges did the same all hell would break loose, but as long as it is keeps marching towards communism it's okay. Justice Ruth 'Darth Vader' Ginsburg, a Clinton appointee, used and cited european laws when deciding U.S. cases. Thus, my name for her...Darth Vader Ginsburg.
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