Reincarnation

[david]

Quote from Cal
"It has been many years since I've heard a new one so I might indulge some ego aggrandizement and surmise I'm ready for the next leg of my mission."

Hi Cal,

I while back you interviewed a man who claimed to be a reincarnation of the Old Testament prophet Daniel. Let me refer to him as New Daniel. While you didn’t explicitly validate New Daniel’s claims as true one might conclude that you would not have brought him on the show if New Daniel’s claims were all false. New Daniel describes the final minutes of a coming of a Son of Man. If we assume New Daniel is true then, God makes an entrance to beats all entrances. One h****n of entrance! The whole earth is plunged in a higher dimension. Its not just every eye shall see. Every person feels too. People every falling on there knees out of shear terror. Anyway, my question is this. Is New Daniel true and describing the first rapture or second rapture or other event?

Just noticed this line:-

"It is also note worthy that I have never had an ascendant ask me his status."


Oh dear. Too bad, I already have asked something vaguely along these lines a while back with regards to reincarnation and the devils deal to be more precise. So it seems I may now have my answer. For those of the first rapture, the part of about building new things never before imagined sounds really intriguing. I bet the science school there is amazing. Oh well. At least I don’t need a new suitcase any time soon.

Kind Regards
David

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

David

I didn't validate Daniel because he can't be validated. He has no proof 'and' he was selling.

I didn't mention it publically at the time because I didn't want to embarass him. I asked him what he did for a living. He wouldn't give an answer. Yet, on my caller ID the name appearing belonged to a parking lot concern and I assumed he was a parking lot attendant.

This didn't bother me, I find no shame in making an honest living no matter how humble the work. What did bother me is that he tried to hide it as if it were shameful. ie: I concluded he was 'selling'.

Also, he has no provings and his presentations contradict the Biblical cite that he should go his way to the endtimes (ie judgement). Daniel had done his bit and his prophetic task was over.

DAN 12 9 AND HE SAID GO THY WAY DANIEL FOR THE WORDS ARE CLOSED UP AND SEALED TILL THE TIME OF THE END

To be sure, the real Daniel is around somewhere but I don't think this kid is it. He also identifies himself as an angel. This also contradicts the Biblical cite.

When the angel arrived to give the vision, Daniel and John hit the deck on their hands and knees and 'worshipped' at the feet of the angel. The angel told both to stand up BUT to John he said, for we are 'brothers'. John is an angel - Daniel isn't.

You can't grant a person credibility without proof to support it and this young fellow can't. I filed him under delusional. Of course, the best way to make a determination was to talk to him.

On the flip side, you might remember the black Prophet of Yahweh who rolled thru here briefly. I knew he was FOS from the get go. He didn't know who Yahweh really is and I've never had anything to do with him nor would I support his racist dictums or the money games he plays with his purported 'ministry'. He called a ufo for a camera crew. Big deal. Those who have traveled with me saw ufos well past the point of boredom. It doesn't impress.


There is no shortage of false prophets running around.


A third exemplar has been tracking me since 1988. This kid has a serious mental illness and dealing with day to day life is a big task for him. Involving himself in these topics don't make things any better for him and as he lives with borderline delusion daily, and HQ topics wouldn't serve him any good. I've nicely told him to focus on his life and leave these subjects alone. Do good - be good would be enough.

Once I've identified that a person is of unsound mind and has crossed the line into La La Land, I take a very gentle hand with them. If, as our would be prophet of Yahweh is, poorly intended and self aggrandizing, I take a different tact proportional to the degree of con involved. Oddly, sane people can be involved in delusions as well. The Democrat part is a perfect example of belief over substance.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Marten - thanks for the kind words. Elise has bailed - a typical expression of denial.

I reserve the sharp tongue only for those who have shown their poor intent then I deliver the truth in a pointed fashion because I already know from long experience - there is no way to reach these people with logic, reason or fact. These are the one's for which the hard journey of tribulation was designed. Reason is the easy road.

Neither you nor Stephen Thorburn arrived poorly intended and I was willing to indulge you for as along as necessary. Steve was a 14 year true believer in the UB but he'd not sacrificed his integrity to it - Elise has.

As you know, I'm not given to whining so I've not discussed the Rev Code material on the mean, nasty and ugly things that have been done to me via the Ancient of Days (dew of heaven). He arrived to talk to me once, physically and in my face. I turned my back to him and the seven years of persecution was under way within a couple of days. Trust me when I tell you - you wouldn't want to be me.

Regardless, because of my knowing of Father and the resulting faith in Him - I endure as we all do to one degree or another.

The sad thing about Elise and her ilk is that they'd conclude that I had it coming. Jesus would not concur and their lip service to Michael is the worst level of hypocrisy possible and assumes that this loving man would indulge such poor behaviors. Of course, the two words that usually proceed the poor analysis are 'yes but'.

I recall asking a priest once how it was that an all loving God could condemn someone to hell for all eternity. The reply was, yes He is all loving BUT He is also all just. Ergo - yes but.
Yet the truth is - Father doesn't punish anyone. People punish each other and assume that God does the same.

[david]

Thanks Cal, for taking the time to give a full answer. Sorry about your recent 7 year trouble. Didnt know about it. Too late now, but im sure we all here would have helped out if we could have.

David

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Before the AOD....there was Satan. I've been shoveling this load so long I actually get a little paranoid when something isn't wrong Thanks for the thought, but there's nothing you could have done and I knew what I was getting into before I accepted the gig.

I keep company with a dog because she won't corrupt or turn on me - people do. Dog's don't know yes but - just that which is true and not. I had a city official - a full blood indian in my face a couple of years ago. The dog was alerting me to what I already knew. She'd look at him, give a short growl, then look at me. She kept repeating the procedure until I finally acknowledged her. Her message was, this man comes not in a good way. Naturally, I already knew the man was a poorly intended ass who hadn't figured out yet that I had already out maneuvered him. This particular fellow walks with a dark cloud around him - you'd have to be blind to miss it and neither the dog or I are blind. My only gripe with her is that she's not much on conversation

Linkword = RULETH
DAN 4 17 THIS MATTER IS BY THE DECREE OF THE WATCHERS (6d) AND THE DEMAND BY THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONES (elders 6d)TO THE INTENT THAT THE LIVING MAY KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH RULETH IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN AND GIVETH IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL AND SETTETH UP OVER IT THE BASEST OF MEN

This is what the AOD's gripe is all about. He didn't want me as the prince of this world and had no say in the matter. The Father of the Second order of Lanonandek's makes these assignments ie: Abaddon - The Old One.

Also, The elders and other 6d types are outside of this universe and have NO SAY WHATSOEVER what goes on here. This is the Son's Kingdom. However, this was Samael's pretext.



DAN 4 25 THAT THEY SHALL DRIVE THEE FROM MEN AND THY DWELLING SHALL BE WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD AND THEY SHALL MAKE THEE TO EAT GRASS AS OXEN AND THEY SHALL WET THEE WITH THE DEW OF HEAVEN AND SEVEN TIMES SHALL PASS OVER THEE TILL THOU KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH RULETH IN
THE KINGDOM OF MEN AND GIVETH IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL


Clearly, the intent of this lesson didn't take. I'm still on my feet and will stay so.


DAN 4 32 AND THEY SHALL DRIVE THEE FROM MEN AND THY DWELLING SHALL BE WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD THEY SHALL MAKE THEE TO EAT GRASS AS OXEN AND SEVEN TIMES SHALL PASS OVER THEE UNTIL THOU KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH RULETH IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN AND GIVETH IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL

It is true that I keep company with a 'beast' and she's preferable to most angels. One of the short and to the point expressions common to earth is the one finger salute. I suspect most of the universe would understand it without explanation.

REV 12 12 THEREFORE REJOICE YE HEAVENS AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM WOE TO THE INHABITERS OF THE EARTH AND OF THE SEA! FOR THE DEVIL IS COME DOWN UNTO YOU HAVING GREAT WRATH BECAUSE HE KNOWETH THAT HE HATH BUT A SHORT TIME

The AOD's days are numbered few. I trapped him here with Father's ring in 1995 knowing there'd be poor consequence. All journeys are like books. There's a beginning a middle and an end.
So also does this one and it ends well.

[Deleted]

just as an aside, don't know if anyone noticed this but the quote cited from the UB referred to transmigration, the concept of traveling between human and animal form from life to life, not reincarnation in the true sense which is remaining whatever life form you are and going through successive incarnations, there is a big difference to say the least... don't know whether to chalk this up to ignorance or indoctrination....

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

I higher life form does not 'transmigrate' to a lower one although the de-evolution of the spirit is certainly possible.

[Jeremiah]

Jere

Still don't get it do you. I'm not the messiah trying to sell anything nor are you the messiah empowered to save people from me. I'd suggest you spend more time tending to your own backside, if you keep your nose positioned near mine - the result could be messy.
I agree. nor you or me are the messiah that's correct. I never said I was. I'm just an average mortal joe walking down the street just like you. But I do have the feeling to point out your faults wether you like it or not (you're far away from perfection, don't have to say it, so I am) I guess it's hard for you to have someone in your forum that's not in accordance to what you say; as you expect everyone here is.
About your threathen, I will say this: your only power over me is to ban me from this site (wich once again will demonstrate how intorable you are) anyhting else is just a joke.
I'll be judge like everybody else, but it's not you who's gonna be judging me, that's way above your pay grade. peace and smile

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

So your purpose is to save the people on this forum from me by pointing out my faults.
We have users who have been with HQ, in its various forms for 10 years and now YOU are going to supply that which they've not discovered in all those years after a few minutes.
How marvelous you are.

As to your belief rantings of what I will and won't do - the people can believe you are they can believe the Bible. Now, unless you can walk on water - you're a joke and a poor one at that.
A sad little person wrapped in so much negativity and who has nothing better to do with his life than to follow me around showing his ass. But you are right, I can boot you from the forum but you haven't hit my tolerance limit yet. Say hello to Elise - she had enough sense to leave where she wasn't wanted.

[ophello]

"...you're far away from perfection..."

He never said he was perfect, did he?

"guess it's hard for you to have someone in your forum that's not in accordance to what you say"

Its hard for him? Id say its easy -- annoying, at best. You guys always come here with an attitude. So few of you take the time to really dig into this. I dare you to take the red pill.

[Jereamiah]

In response to Bob's comment
So your purpose is to save the people on this forum from me by pointing out my faults.
I dont recall I've said I'm a saviour

How marvelous you are.
I appreciate you have noticed it, probably I could say the same to bobby burgess, the real guy, the human being, the mortal man in front of the cpu...not to the one who believes he's prince of wonderland

A sad little person wrapped in so much negativity and who has nothing better to do with his life than to follow me around showing his ass
Nor I'm sad, nor little, nor wrapped in negativity, those are merely adjectives you gave me just because I dont agree with your beliefs... but maybe you suffer from that wich you acuse, and I do have other things to do but you leave me no choice but to reply.

But you are right
way to go bob, that's an improvement, it's not always you who is right, and I'm glad you accept it

peace

[Jereamiah]

To Ophello
He never said he was perfect, did he?
No, literally not, but he acts as he was... prince of lalaland who's never mistaken

I dare you to take the red pill.
I wonder what pill would that be? would it be the one that makes me allucinate and then realize that I'm the he-man, master of the universe, fighting against skeletor

peace

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Jere

Your guns are as empty as your head and your heart. So, let's assume you miraculously remove me from the equation - what do you replace me with? The UB? More of your drivel.
Where comes the truth?

Also, Rob was quite right - if you're going to presume to rant about Americans, you should actually educate yourself. As a foreigner - your uneducated opinion of us isn't worth much. Just as I'm certain you've never read HQ. Me thinks you'd be better off solving the problems of Mexico before you presume to solve those of others.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

It just dawned on me who Jere is. For the years we had Tueday night chats, 2 Ubite mexicans would show up - always under different names - spewing deceit and UB tripe with the purpose of disrupting conversation. I'd always give them the boot and the rest of us would continue. Now, we have one arrived into the posting forum. Jere is also a long standing participant at Ubron.org. His tripe there isn't much better and he's been warned about misbehaving there as well.

The people here tend to be civil to each other even in disagreement. Ubites generally don't.
As for Jere - be it on ubron or here - his tripe is always the same - dull - dimwitted and soaked in negativity.

BTW Jere - one of the advantages of getting older is that everyone who ever called me Bobby - has died.

So, let's get to it shall we. Let's assume you've removed me. What great truth do you offer to the readers of this forum AND WHAT PROOF do you have? Your word counts for diddly squat without proving.

[imbasile]

Cal: please excuse the interruption of the UB saga.
Also, please, correct me as I try to follow this "reincarnation" and other processes.
"normally" we incarnate for a 500,000 year period.
This time frame is standard for this planet and whether or not you are "ascendant" before this time you still have to continue with this time frame.
You instituted a "new" way for this planet, placing competition and such to create a greater amount of ascendant persons (percentage wise).
Satan has rebelled against the universe and the Son.
Lucifer has NOT rebelled but advocates change in the system
The AOD is the "real" hater of man (at least on this planet) and is/was in control of the "system"
When we re - incarnate we are wiped of any memories (can you explain why this is?)
Some "special" projects persons are allowed their memories or are "woke up" when it is time for them to fulfill their mission.
When this time frame is done, then the ascendants from this planet will start a new universe.
Most of this universes personalities are NOT acquainted with the type of training that we have going on here and we are considered "trouble makers" because we are competitive and such.
And last, the year 2012, sorry, but I have to ask
All my reading on the subject on the internet tells me that there are some very confused persons out there.
I find that putting all the info together that my understanding is that the "calendar" that stops at 2012 was a project with very smart people that was logical and calculated, and as far as they could go was because at that year some "variable" is introduced that could not allow for the continuation of the calculations for a further dating process.
I could only guess but it would include the earths orbital rotation around the sun, the earths rotational speed, other factors I'm unaware of.
Some say that this is the line that we cross over to 4d.
I know this a lot of stuff, but please consider that I have no memories and very much am trying to understand all this new information.