Dave's in-depth knowledge about alcohol fuel.

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David Blume, speaks the truth of why alcohol is a better gas than the toxic oil by product called gasoline. The video is of great quality. Also he speaks of why David Rockefeller gave the temperance movement 40 million dollars to amend the Constitution against alcohol production.

In addition he talks about others monkey-ing with assumptions to make the data fit oil arguments. I think he said the Ford modle T was an alcohol fueld car, along with other engines.

Anyhow he talks about flex fuel and how most fuel injection engines can run a mixture of gas and alcohol right now without hurting the engine.



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[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Dave

During WWII alcohol was used as a fuel for cars. HOWEVER, and its a big one, it takes a lot of energy to make alcohol not to mention biomass.

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Alcohol-Based Fuels

Ecological biologist David Blume discussed the importance and benefits of alcohol-based fuels, and how the petroleum industry has suppressed their development. Some of the earliest cars such as the Model T were flex fuel (running on either gas or alcohol), and Henry Ford was an advocate for alcohol fuel. However, he was opposed by John D. Rockefeller who pushed for Prohibition, which stopped the manufacture of alcohol for any purpose, Blume detailed.

Cheaper than gas, alcohol is a superior fuel, as it leaves no carbon behind, engines last longer, and it can free us from foreign dependence, he noted. There are some twenty different crops that can produce alcohol, and many of them, such as sugar beets, yield more alcohol per acre than corn.

Most cars can actually run with up to 50% alcohol in their tanks, without using any kind of conversion device, Blume declared, and kits can be added to vehicles for less than $300. People can get permits to create home distilleries to brew their own alcohol fuel, which enables them to be eligible for tax credits, he said. An advocate for community organizing, Blume said in many locales residents have set up driver owned stations which offer alcohol pumps.

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wikpedia

Since the second half of the 70's, and as a result of the 1973 oil crisis, the Brazil government has been promoting ethanol as a fuel. By 1978 the first gasohol automobile was developed. The Brazilian government provided three important initial drivers for the ethanol industry: guaranteed purchases by the state-owned oil company Petrobras, low-interest loans for agro-industrial ethanol firms, and fixed gasoline and ethanol prices where hydrous ethanol sold for 59% of the government-set gasoline price at the pump. These pump-primers have made ethanol production competitive yet unsubsidized.[9] In recent years, the Brazilian untaxed retail price of hydrous ethanol has been lower than that of gasoline per gallon.[9] Approximately US$50 million has recently been allocated for research and projects focused on advancing the obtention of ethanol from sugarcane in São Paulo.[18]

The Pró-Álcool or Programa Nacional do Álcool (National Alcohol Program) was a nation-wide program financed by the government to phase out all automobile fuels derived from fossil fuels (such as gasoline) in favour of ethanol. It began with the anhydrous alcohol to blend with the gasoline. This mixture has been used since then and is now done with 24% of alcohol and 76% gasoline (commonly known as gasohol). The program successfully reduced by 10 million the number of cars running on gasoline in Brazil, thereby reducing the country's dependence on oil imports. The decision to produce ethanol from fermented sugarcane was based on the low cost of sugar at the time. Other sources of fermentable carbohydrates were tested such as the manioc. Sales of alcohol-only cars tumbled after an alcohol shortage coupled with low gas prices in the late 1980s to early 1990s. [19]

In May 2003 Volkswagen built for the first time a production flexible fuel car, the Gol 1.6 Total Flex. Chevrolet followed two months later with the Corsa 1.8 Flexpower, using an engine developed by a joint-venture with Fiat called PowerTrain. That year production of full flex-fuel reached 39.853 automobiles and 9.411 light commercial vehicles. By 2005, popular manufacturers that build flexible fuel vehicles are Chevrolet, Fiat, Ford, Peugeot, Renault ,Volkswagen, Honda, Mitsubishi, Toyota and Citröen.[20] Flexible fuel cars were 15,2% of the car sales in 2004, 38,6% in 2005, 59,7% for 2006 and 71.9% for 2007.[16][17] By March 2008, the fleet of dual-fuel vehicles, including autos and light commercial vehicles, had reached 5 million.[12]

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Brazil's Biofuel Strategy Pays Off as Gas Prices Soar

By Dan Morgan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 18, 2005; Page D01
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/17/AR2005061701440.html

The trend in Brazil has far-reaching implications for environmental policy, trade and economic development in poor countries that may have a bright future producing crops that can be easily turned into fuels. Biofuels also could be alternatives for U.S. farmers facing cuts in large federal farm subsidies on traditional crops, according to some agricultural economists.

Efforts to gain wide acceptance in the United States have faced political, economic, and technical obstacles not present in Brazil.

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Ford originally envisioned Potato derived alcohol as fuel. He wound up using alot of Hemp.

It is past time to plant the venerable Hemp seed from sea to shining sea, as it was once done by the wise men of this country.

There are strains without enough THC to inebriate a person if they chose the attempt.

For those who don't understand the value of hemp, it is because it can be used for just about everything (small exaggeration), harvests 3 times a year, grows like a weed, creates 4 times the biomass per acre of any other crop that can have similar uses.

In other words, many people discovered inferior alternatives to hemp, and greedily wanted to profit from them, so convinced the easily fooled through propaganda to go with the alternative, even going so far as to demonize and legislate against the stuff.

From what I have read, Ben, George, and Thomas J. all cultivated the crop, and in the early days in Connecticut it was required by all landowners to cultivate.

A simple search of the internet will reveal the plethora of historic uses, such as everything from cloth to rope to boat sails (highest strength and most durable fabric known to man), fuel oil, and the most complete protein besides cow milk is found in the hemp seed.

The body of Henry Fords first car was made from 70% hemp, the panels were many times stronger than steel in their ability to resist dents or any deformity, and were many times lighter also.

It is a matter of going back to the basics, or being strangled by anyone who just wants to make a buck and monopolize a section of industry using an inferior product that they control, sometimes originating in a foreign country.

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Dave comment: If going back to basics means lawful truth and integrity then I agree. Apparently DEA lawyers hold the high ground. This to me smacks of someone's self serving agenda rather than science based on facts. One has to fight in court and win so the DEA can not burn the crops. The arrogance of ambiguity is the tool for a witch hunt. The DEA has used it well.



Two hemp farmers in North Dakota sue the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and Department of Justice, alleging that the federal Controlled Substances Act prohibits them from selling hemp fiber, sterilized seed and seed oil because “the industrial hemp plant itself is of the same species -- Cannibis sativa L. -- as that defined as 'Marihuana' under federal law.“ They maintain that the prohibition puts them at a competitive disadvantage because hemp farmers in “more than 30 countries” can sell their legal hemp in the U.S., but their U.S. business can’t.



Wikpedia
The Drug Enforcement Administration was established on 1 July 1973, by Reorganization Plan No. 2 of 1973, signed by President Richard Nixon on 28 March 1973.[1] It proposed the creation of a single federal agency to enforce the federal drug laws as well as consolidate and coordinate the government's drug control activities. Congress accepted the proposal, as they were concerned with the growing availability of drugs.[2] As a result, the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD), the Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement (ODALE), and other Federal offices merged together to create the DEA.[3]

In 1999, the DEA opened the Drug Enforcement Administration Museum in Arlington, Virginia. In February 2003, the DEA established a Digital Evidence Laboratory within its Office of Forensic Sciences.[4]




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Today's DEA's View: It's the THC Stupid!

In the wake of those cases, Justice Department and DEA lawyers maintain that the CDAPCA prohibits everything containing THC--whether synthetic or organic--including all parts of the cannabis plant. However, it's highly debatable whether that's true: The federal courts of appeal have divided over the question whether all parts of the cannabis plant are Schedule I controlled substances.

Unfortunately, despite the legal ambiguity, the DEA has dug in its heels, acting as if the law were clear, and as if every use of cannabis were created equal.

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Well, if you had taken over powerful gov't agencies and were controlling the black and grey market trade in dope, you would likely use every trick in the book to keep your racket going, after all yacht payments are expensive.

Marijuana was regulated by wise men for thousands of years, prescribed by physicians to those it would aid, and withheld from those who might abuse it.

Blanket prohibition is the first step to cornering a market on those commodities that people will find and use anyway.

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Well, if you had taken over powerful gov't agencies and were controlling the black and grey market trade in dope, you would likely use every trick in the book to keep your racket going, after all yacht payments are expensive.


David Price says:

Well no. My Creator Father expects more from me. You see I have a future based in TRUTH and SERVICE. All an Advent needs is the TRUTH.

The TRUTH is the fuel that energizes our soul.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

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One other thing about Brazil. They are ALSO drilling for oil and based upon recent finds, they are 100% self sufficient in energy.

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Cal - I see alcohol production as a way to increase fuel supplies. The question for me is the true cost of making the product.

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The transition period could be painless, we have the refinery capacity in this country, and the reserves. We should depend on our own supply to see us through until more traditionally resourceful economic measures can be broadly applied, or new superior technology becomes fully available.

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Well rapture should solve a lot of problems. With 50% of the people gone - demand reduces and the U.S. is energy independant over night. Oh........the poor Arabs.

Chemical based systems have severe limitations. The impetus for the next generation should be energy based (electrical). Anyone can manufacture electricity even if its only with a bicycle.

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Electrical over chemical - hmmm point taken. Better keep my eyes open along with the mind.

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Car alternators with long drive belts from Big rigs can be hooked up to bicycles.

Oxen and Horses are great sources of work also.

Hooked up to a turnstyle apparatus which the animals can circumambulate, the drive belt could turn the alternator. Think gears too.

Small windmills or water turbines can power an electric well pump, and store energy in simple electrolyte cells. (Batteries).