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Smokers
Feb 7, 2009 17:20:22 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 7, 2009 17:20:22 GMT -5
The democrat congress has imposed another 6 dollars a carton tax that will be operative april 1st.
Depending upon where you live, this will raise the prices from 30 dollars a carton to 70.
More change we can count on.
Obama Obama Obama. The raiser of taxes given to flatteries.
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Smokers
Feb 7, 2009 18:56:27 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 7, 2009 18:56:27 GMT -5
Oh but Cal don't you see that with less smokers able to afford to smoke that Obama might help us tip the scales in the fight against Global warming through Carbon emissions and actually save the planet !?!
And in the meantime whatever money he does collect in taxes he can "pay forward" to his boyz in the hood.
Only an anti-earth racist would have a problem with such a wonderful plan.
That't ok, now that I have shown you the light just repeat after me,
Obama, Obama, Obama.
That's better.
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Smokers
Feb 7, 2009 23:00:01 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 7, 2009 23:00:01 GMT -5
I wonder where I left my white guilt - have you seen it anywhere?
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Post by Parn on Feb 8, 2009 3:47:50 GMT -5
I don't recall ever having any to begin with. Does that make me a racist bigot?
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 11:07:49 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 8, 2009 11:07:49 GMT -5
I think anyone will be able to pick up a load of white guilt real cheap soon.
There will be heaps of it being discarded all across this country once Obongo signs the executive order forcing the slavery reparation tax.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 16:32:09 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 8, 2009 16:32:09 GMT -5
Oh, I don't think that would be guilt - more like rage.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 18:04:12 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 8, 2009 18:04:12 GMT -5
After you humorously asked if anyone saw where you left your "white guilt... I had a mental image seeing all those who had any "white guilt" left, dumping it on the side of the road as the reality of the racist assault on them settled in, thus leaving heaps of it for anyone who wants to pick some up cheap. But your comment forces me to see that the rage will burn it up and there will be nothing left. A transmutation if you will. And people say conservatives aren't progressive.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 18:18:04 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 8, 2009 18:18:04 GMT -5
The problem here isn't institutionalize white racism but black racism. Whites change for the better. Black also change - but I see little good in the character that developed. Rev. Jessie Lee Peterson has it right and bless him for his service to the truth and his willingness to stand forth with it.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 18:33:53 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 8, 2009 18:33:53 GMT -5
Very true. As a case in point, that brings to mind the treatment of many of my white Irish ancestors who migrated to America. Many times they were treated worse than many black slaves were way back when.
Matter of fact, a literary fellow once confided to me that many "Intellectuals" secretly describe the Irish in America as white niggers.
But you sure don't see widespread organized groups of white Irish today blaming anyone else for the past and trying to get something for nothing.
Most Irish used their trials as an opportunity to grow stronger, challenge themselves to seek higher education, and pray to God for understanding and serenity in the face of hardship. Of course many just drank their way through their problems, but natural selection has left us with a largely competent and well integrated population of American's of Irish decent who add substantially to the tapestry of America.
Character, not color, is the benchmark of the reasonable.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 19:02:43 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 8, 2009 19:02:43 GMT -5
During the Irish migration that ran with the potato famine, blacks in NY were quoted as saying. The damned micks are taking all the jobs. Of course, it wasn't too long before those very same micks established Tammany Hall.
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Smokers
Feb 8, 2009 20:58:10 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 8, 2009 20:58:10 GMT -5
Ugh, don't remind me. Oh, you already did. I think one of my 2nd cousins or some close link is now a liberal mayor of Jersey City. I protested against my Irish catholic upbringing, it just didn't fit my inner nature, and tried to leave most of my family ties behind me. I prefer to ignore the dark side of the Irish curse, and focus on the less fanatic protestants and free-jacks who tend to brighten up the rooms they are in.
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 9, 2009 0:16:26 GMT -5
Well the Orange and the Green are proofs that Catholics wear guilt on their faces while the Prods keep it in their spincters
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Smokers
Feb 9, 2009 11:02:37 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 9, 2009 11:02:37 GMT -5
Hah. Now that was clever. And I attest to the internal struggle those two poles represent in a Protesting Irish Catholic. LOL.
Of course the Maternal Dutch-Italian side kept me grounded so to speak, some would call it stuck in the muck. I trace my Mother's maternal side back to the earliest Dutch settlers in "New Amsterdam". That inbreeding ended when my Maternal Grandmother married a WOP from the old country. My WOP G-Pop was a down to earth farmer, a Seabee who served in Panama, and then a school custodian until retirement. His immediate ancestors included some interesting characters from Italy. Not Sicily interesting, but a mix of both conservative and "free living" Paisans from the North.
Despite Murphy's law shadowing me, my Irish luck would have it that I kept good company outside my family circle, and got the best of both worlds, could wear my heart on my sleeve when guilty as charged, yet protested when it was suggested to take responsibility for the sins of my fathers.
America the beautiful.
Overall my nuclear and immediate extended family were not keepers of any old traditions, (except attending church), and mostly strived for education for a positive long term social position. Nurses, a Judge, business consultants. Nice folks, glad to have known em, and I pray Mayor Healy gets a clue, whether he is 2nd cousin or not.
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Smokers
Feb 9, 2009 14:51:07 GMT -5
Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Feb 9, 2009 14:51:07 GMT -5
I married the Irish and I learned everything about them that no reasonable man would ever want to know
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Smokers
Feb 9, 2009 17:27:45 GMT -5
Post by jersey boy on Feb 9, 2009 17:27:45 GMT -5
BANSHEE !!!
LMAO!
No wonder you have such equanimity. That which doesn't kill you...
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