Thomas Paine - Founding Father

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk

[Augusto]

A most powerful message coming from the heart. I just hope to GOD that todays conciousness is not seared enough so that they can listen, think and analize what this man says. By the way what he says at the beginning, about this strange multiculturalism wave, not only in the U.S. but all over the world I may add. this ultra multiculturalism reminds of the book of daniel about the image, specifically the feet and toe part:

DAN 1:33 HIS LEGS OF IRON, HIS FEET PART OF IRON AND PART OF CLAY.

DAN 1:41 AND WHEREAS THOU SAWEST THE FEET AND TOES, PART OF POTTERS CLAY AND PART OF IRON, THE KINGDOM SHALL BE DIVIDED,BUT THERE SALL BE IN IT OF THE STRENGTH OF IRON, FORASMUCH AS THOU SAWEST THE IRON MIXED WITH MIRY CLAY.

DAN 1:42 AND AS THE TOES OF THE FEET WHERE PART OF IRON, AND PART OF CLAY, SO THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PARTLY STRONG, AND PARTLY BROKEN.

It seems to me that this message but with different words is the speech of this man on the video. A kingdom strong and broken at the same time could very well be a nation with a population unwilling to give up its integrity and part of that same nation forsaking its integrity. This is just my opinion but to be honest I believe that these are the times depicted in the book of Daniel, in the end people would know or understand the words on his book not on their entirety but at least find the connecting dots. The wise would understand and the wicked would go on doing wicked things without percieving anything at all. Not that I consider myself a wise person but the similarities here are amazing to me, at least, from my point of view. either way: WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Augustus

The imagery shows a nation in declined weakened from within. I heard Hal Lindsay give a drawn out interpretation of these verses and he concluded it referenced the Greek and Roman empires blah blah blah.

By themselves - they could mean anything or apply at just about any time in history. Lindsay, like others who filter things thru lenses of belief (first) missed the point that Daniel isn't a work of history but about a specific period called the End Times.

However, these verses have cross confirmations. Little Horn rises from mortality, takes out the rebellion - deals with the 'most high' ancient of days and then tends to the planet. The whole show only becomes visible ONCE you've read the material in the decrypted format and then pieced it together. AND! it is a hell of a story. A tale of courage, sacrifice and dedication, not only for me, but for all of those involved. It is also about love for Father and fellows and the willingness to go the distance so that His Will Be Done.

Truth (not belief) is the appropriate foundation for faith. I was recently told by another that they found my faith somewhat inspiring. Yet, mine is based upon logic, reason, fact and first hand experience. There is no blind or arbitrary belief involved.

When my journey began and I realized I'd be tripping into material that had a high probability for delusion (ufos for example), I decided that I would proceed using standard investigative techniques. No new age boogey woogey - no belief systems. Facts and only facts. I believe that anyone else could have done the same were they motivated and had the self discipline not to stray from reality.

On the flip side, as no one else has done these things - it might allow that one also needed a special warping of personality not common to 'normal'. I'm now on the underside of 60 and I have yet to identify exactly what normal is.

I suspect that whatever 'it' is - I don't really want much to do with it

[joefarar]

You know, when I see a man of his age take the time to dress up in 18th century looking-attire, stand up for what he believes in, and use a catchy reference (the wine), which kept me hanging till the very end, AND, actually posts it on YouTube...well, I want to give that man a hug. People like that man make America great, it doesn't matter where you stand politically, you have to respect his passion and devotion to this country which has such a rich tradition, history, and I hope, a potential for continued growth and development. If true freedom stands a chance, from where I see it, it won't work unless you got more good folks like this gentleman on your side. It's important to note that man said "non-violence." "For the time being," I hope "everyone" gets that message.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Glenn Beck had him on his show. He's a former New Yorker living in Hawaii.

Paine's writing 'Common Sense' is still worthy of a read.

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I would agree with you Joefarar. I would like to give hiim a big hug also. Although, I don't think everyone of that era looked like the Quaker Oats guy.

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