Another Apostle's Code Snippet

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Linkword = THESE THREE
JO1 5 7 FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR RECORD IN HEAVEN THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST AND THESE THREE ARE ONE

JO1 5 8 AND THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN EARTH THE SPIRIT AND THE WATER AND THE BLOOD AND THESE THREE AGREE IN ONE

Christians interpreted this to mean Father, Son and Holy Ghost where the later is some unspecified power. They ignored another verse in the Gospel of John that the Word, the only begotten of the Father, has never been seen by any man. Jesus was seen and recognized. Thus, it follows that Jesus can not be the word.

The proper names are
The Father
Immanuel
Jesus

Now, Catholics, decided that this made a 'god head'. They use circular reasoning to arrive at it and it has no support anywhere in Biblical verse. However, as with the designations for the trinity, they ignored the second verse.

You don't have one body with three heads, you have three individual persons who are in agreement. John also provides a definition.

Father = The Spirit
Immanuel = The Water
Jesus = The Blood

As with other bogus interpretations, Christians assumed and unilaterally decided that blood meant something else ignoring the definition for the word that John actually provided. When he speaks of the blood - he's referencing jesus - not a body part.
Likewise with the water.

The verse first verse in John has the definitions also but everyone got hung up on their idea of what the word god was supposed to mean.

Consider this:

JOH 1:1 In the beginning was the Word(Immanuel), and the Word (Immanuel) was with God (The Father), and the Word (Immanuel) was God.

JOH 1:2 He (Immanuel) was in the beginning with Him (The Father).

JOH 1:3 All things were made by him(Immanuel); and without him (Immanuel) was not any thing made that was made.

JOH 1:4 In him (Immanuel) was life; and the life was the light of men.

JOH 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

In these verses, you arrive at other definitions for Immanuel.
The light and the life. As theologians could not arrive at these definitions - they made up their own based upon their personal expectations, predelictions and biases.

Note: In the second coded verse, it begins with the word 'and'.
Clearly intended to be attached to the first verse.

When first I worked to break the code, I had to ask, 'why is it that two educated men wrote so badly AND in the same fashion'.

Now knowing about the code the answer is 'logic of purpose', encryption.

[Jerseyboy]

Thanks Cal.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

You're welcome

Incidentally, one of Christianity's greater goofs is the idea that Jesus was the only one to get nailed to the tree.

You won't find this written anywhere but I'll share it.

The Romans were very generous with the cross. Political prisoners, convicted of crimes against Rome - were nailed. Common criminal were tied with ropes, left to hang there for a while and then had their legs broken with a club. This caused the body to sag and they suffocated. Now, in the case of Jesus where he was actually innocent of a crime but was executed for political expediency, they would give him a spear in the heart.

After you've been hanging up there for a while - that spear starts to look pretty good. My turn on the tree occured in 50 AD.

[Jersey boy]

When they wake up and see that who they thought they were defending themselves against was actually trying to help them, and see before them the long row to hoe to make amends, its gonna hurt them pretty bad too.

Until then in regards to your persecutors, your efforts are a thankless task. Something no person would engage in unless they were serving Father in the doing.

Forgiving and forgetting has always been a fine line for me. Sometimes I go cold on both ends and just want to go home.

[kallistar]

it will really shock and embarrass all those who are at judgement, only to see Caligastia there as one of the judges. It is a pity that they don't realize that he won't take these things personally as he is a man of principle, fair, very experienced and understands the human element. The Prince has been doing this for a long time, and it is precisely these people that need the inspiration and focus.

Needless to say, Caligastia is one who leads by example. The emphasis is on love, tolerance and compassion. I know for a fact that i am nowhere near as patient or tolerant as he is, especially with some of the stuff i have read in this forum and in the older archives. Cal, you have a big heart, and while i don't know you personally, you have helped me grow as a person in many ways, and for this I am grateful and I thank you. I actually came here by way of the urantia book, after searching for many years for the truth of the rebellion in heaven. Lets just say that i didn't (couldn't) buy what was being said about a lot of things and persons.

Never being one to listen to only one side of the story, i mustered up the courage to visit HQ. What i found was ... unexpected to say the least. Cal, your mind and thoughts are archived on HQ. One only needs to read the papers, the forum(s), and the radio shows to see the type of man you are. It is my very humble opinion that Father has very big plans for you in the near future, and all this work will be worth it.

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I will say this; Cal you have many fans, some more vocal than others, and we all appreciate what you have done and continue to do. Again I thank you.

Kallistar.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Kallistar

Thank you for your kind words. I wish I shared your opinion of me - but then I lack perspective.
While I may forgive - I never forget a jackass and I am far from a perfect being. We all have our own journeys.

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