Antigravity

[Adam]

No wonder some interest's are so interested in Cal.


Richard Hoagland says that he is going to write the part 3 paper on how anyone can do free energy in their garage. I am waiting for it. However the youtube link below explains the antigravity agenda, and how Newtons laws don't work in space.


Antigravity, Von Braun, & Nazi Secrets 9 of 15
www.youtube.com/watch?v=anl5JC-3xBU&feature=related


www.enterprisemission.com/
This is the story of the Enterprise Mission's painstaking, years-long investigation (given context in our recent New York Times bestseller -- Dark Mission: the Secret History of NASA): the "back-engineering," scientific and political analysis of this "world-changing, pre-NASA discovery" ... and the grave global consequences that have now evolved from the crucial decision, made by "someone" in a position of Authority that night--

To simply ... "bury it."

In subsequent pages, we will detail and document "who" exactly made this amazing breakthrough, precisely "how" it was achieved, and "what" the stunning, world-wide implications could have been ... if science had been allowed to take its natural course that night -- if this unique discovery had been freely presented, freely studied and freely discussed in the global scientific community in the ensuing years ... and then, implemented as a revolutionary, Earth-based "gravitational control technology."

But, most important--

We will detail how this paradigm-shattering breakthrough can now be duplicated -- by any student, in any decent high school physics laboratory ... literally, anywhere on Earth!

And what that now could mean for all Humanity.

[Adam]

Better utube link for hearing.

www.youtube.com/profile?user=eyezbback

[akira2]

i've been tracking with Uncle Hoagie for years and years and years. He's got some really good stuff. And some really loose facts, too. And a lot of established scientists trying to put him under, while he's worshiped by the unorganized scientific masses. He's a character and a figure if i ever heard of one.

I just hope his revelation will be more than the aluminium foil lifters that J.L. Naudin and others have been building on the internet for many years.

I discovered Hoagland's unofficial message board over on anomalies.net back in 2000 and became a daily contributor there. We had some really good smart folks over there. But in-fighting and controversy over Mars photos and the new pictures of the Mars Face looking particularly nothing like a face broke everything up. Some say it was a NASA mash-up job, others said Hoagland was a charlatan out to make bucks. It was never resolved, but i'll wouldn't turn my back on him.

We'll see. If anything, as many times as he's been on CNN and the networks, he's certainly good to drawing attention to a cause. Lifter tech and anti-grav and zero-point energy need to become part of the world consciousness i think.

[Adam]

Yes, I hear you Akira. So far Hoagland has supplied the bun but were is the beef? Hey says that he will supply the beef. If the tests can be replicated then the allegations that the mil has anti gravity flying vehicles comes into question.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

I discovered anti-grav a long time ago

2 screwdrivers does it for me

[e-Male]

Dave,

Thanks for the post & link. Listened to all 15, and went surfing through Hoagland's site. EnterpriseMission had been pretty idle for some time since Dark Mission got released. Good to see he's back in play.

HOURS later, I've made it back here. Still open browser windows on off-links from the links.

Hoagland's always entertaining reading. He tends to be light on his proofs, but at least he lays out why he is putting forth his conjectures.


Cal,

One thing that ought to stir the puddin' right here is the statement Hoagland made to Noory about halfway through that CoastToCoastAM show (I didn't flag which part of the 15 it was said in). That there will be a Nazi false-flag alien invasion to bring about a one-world government.

Except for the Nazi part (and the false-flag alien part), and maybe the one-world government part, isn't that similar to what we're hearing here, Cal?

Space ships over DC? Will it be the Nazis faking being extraterrestrials or will it be the Planetary Prince and real extraterrestrial angels?

/e

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

I've kept an eye on Hoagland off and on over the last 10 years.
Some of his insights have been, in my opinion, remarkable.
That said, he has a penchant for whining about governmental conspiracies and such. My reading here is that he falls into the common mufon ufo trap. Since you can't catch the ufo, you assume the government has and then you investigate the government and not the ufo. When they find out the military actually can keep a secret - they whine. When they've exhausted all possible investigative avenues then turn on themselves and investigate each other.


I think I've pretty much established I'm not a Nazi, Communist, Bigot or have any similar affiliation. I am pro freedom but not pro license.

Herein we have to come down on Hoagland's interpretation of the material he has before him. If he hasn't read the code, he's at a serious disadvantage and I can see, given his conspiracy mindset, how he can assume the worst case scenario.

I'd also agree with you that he is frequently thin on facts and sometimes makes logical errors.

For example, he noted that a probe to mars carried twice as much fuel as necessary for the mission. He deduced that one craft would be doing 2 things never giving allowance that there might be two craft. Each with different objectives.

Since Nasa and the military have given up on the idea of nuking Cydonia (for the moment) their probes are getting through to the planet. Nasa, however, has made a significant error in their planning. They should be considering building their structures underground or into a mountain rather than outside. Too much radiation will do a job on your gonads.

Also, there is plenty of water on Mars - but you have to drill for it because its underground.

[e-Male]

Cal,

No question in my little mind that you're the guy in the white hat. [Remember the days when it was easy to tell the good guys from the bad guys by the color of their hats?]

But for the sake of (conspiratorial) argument, let's say Fuller and Hoagland have some reasonable basis for their claiming that the Nazis went into hiding with their WWII technological breakthroughs, and have progressed since then.

Now wouldn't that just put a hitch in your git-along should some Nazi false-flag phony-alien UFOs start hovering over the capital declaring a takeover and martial law ... first?

Scare the dark smelly stuff out of everyone before you come along.

A devastating tactic for the bad guys to discredit and undermine you by beating you to the dramatic punch.

Does the Old One have anything to say about that, since he's your chief eye-on-high in the sky? Are Hoagland and Fuller full of it? Or are there possibilities for their possibilities?

/e

(yes, I spend entirely too much time on conspiracy theory laden sites)

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

>>>No question in my little mind that you're the guy in the white hat. [Remember the days when it was easy to tell the good guys from the bad guys by the color of their hats?]

Yes, I remember Hopalog Cassidy

>>>But for the sake of (conspiratorial) argument, let's say Fuller and Hoagland have some reasonable basis for their claiming that the Nazis went into hiding with their WWII technological breakthroughs, and have progressed since then.

This isn't news. The Odessa group has been known about for a long time and received sanctuary in Argentina from Juan Peron and also in Paraguay.

>>Now wouldn't that just put a hitch in your git-along should some Nazi false-flag phony-alien UFOs start hovering over the capital declaring a takeover and martial law ... first?

Considering that we control the skies - not even a remote possibility. Review the material on HQ re: green meteors.

>>Are Hoagland and Fuller full of it? Or are there possibilities for their possibilities?

I don't know about Fuller. However, I think Hoagland has a handle on it but he's misidentified the nazi group. The Universal Goverment under Samael IS facist and he makes Hitler look like a choir boy. Nazi serves as an understatement.

If you look at the persecution verses from Daniel, there is nothing high or holy there just low and mean in the worst of ways. This gives a clue to the Hitleresque mindset of the Ancient of Days.

[e-Male]

Aug 25, 2008 14:26:29 GMT -5 @Cal said:

... Review the material on HQ re: green meteors.

Ironically or coincidentally, that's exactly how I happened across the HQ site. While watching Comet Holmes, I witnessed a humongous -- as in maybe a third of the arc of a full moon in size -- green meteor sailing almost directly overhead. I'd never seen or even heard of such a thing, so I hit the internet searching for green meteors and up popped your page.

I've been an avid reader since.

Aug 25, 2008 14:26:29 GMT -5 @Cal said:

Considering that we control the skies - not even a remote possibility.

With regard to that comment, I recall that somewhere you wrote that you did permit some to retain their ships. And what might be the capabilities of the South American Nazis? Britannia once ruled the waves, but that didn't keep pirates from sneaking about and pulling raids both small and large.

Aug 25, 2008 14:26:29 GMT -5 @Cal said:

... The Universal Goverment under Samael IS facist and he makes Hitler look like a choir boy. Nazi serves as an understatement.

If you look at the persecution verses from Daniel, there is nothing high or holy there just low and mean in the worst of ways. This gives a clue to the Hitleresque mindset of the Ancient of Days.

Since fascism is a political state, socialism is a cultural state, and communism is an economic state, and all three are interrelated and all three have abominable histories as far as human rights and progress [of any and every sort] are concerned, how can anyone in their right mind advocate for any of those? It strikes me that it doesn't even fall under the category of short-sighted self-interest.

What has allowed them to persist? And, in fact, what has allowed them to come into such vogue here in the US as evidenced by the fawning over the Obamanation, and the apparent growth in belief and trust in an all-intrusive central government?

Are we such pathetically stupid creatures that we can't see the evidence stepping on our necks? We obviously don't learn from history, and each successive generation (individual) has to form a worldview from an apparent tabula rasa. But still, by the time one reaches the age of reason, it should be obvious that the hobnail boot, however lightly laid, isn't there to succor.

I know, I know... a lie repeated often enough becomes a truth that everybody knows.

Feeling a tad down hearted of late,
/e

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

E

Things don't start out as full blown evil. Karl Marx wasn't an 'evil' man but legitimately sought to construct a scenario that would benefit people. Unfortunately, he'd ignored prior efforts at socialized societies in his template. The Pilgrims tried it and failed.

Religion, in an of itself is not evil. Yet, 1400 years after the death of Christ, you had the Spanish Inquisition. Today, 1400 years after the Death of Mohammad, you have the Islamic version of the same thing. Things started with good intent can be perverted and it is done slowly and incrementally.

The boiling frog is the proving. If you put a frog in boiling water, it'll jump out. If you put it in cold water and slowly heat the water, it will boil to death.