Ghosts

[cwb2007]

I know several people who have claimed to see them or encountered them.
Is it possible for a person's spirit to remain on earth rather than returning to the hall of souls?
I assume a good many of these sightings are delusions on the part of some, but I wonder if there are legitimate sightings.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

and how would you be able to tell?

[cwb2007]

I'm not sure what you mean exactly.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Most ghost sightings are what I call temporal hiccups where 2 moments are happening at the same location at different moments in linear time.

[RCBTraveler]

Aug 1, 2008 11:11:46 GMT -5 Caligastia Lanonandek said:

Most ghost sightings are what I call temporal hiccups where 2 moments are happening at the same location at different moments in linear time.

To understand a ghost you must understand the constitution of the soul. We are a minute partial of spiritual energy one ten thousandth the tip of a hair, coming directly from God. We are called marginal because we are small and always embodied, whether spiritually or materially. All that are in this phenomenal world are embodied by the material nature. These bodies are made of 8 element's, earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and lastly, most importantly, false ego. The false ego is the cause of falling from grace and the most difficult to once again over come. The first 5 are called gross and the last 3 are called subtle.

The soul is eternal, bodies are temporary. They come and go with birth and death. But the death that we see is only the death of the gross material body, the five first elements listed. The subtle body(mind, intelligent, false ego) lives on still embodying the soul and goes with the conditioned soul to his next arrangement(physical body) "So you sow, so shall you reap"

Sometimes a person leaves his body under extreme circumstances such as suicide or death by drug over dose, a thing that is self-perpetuated. A violent death is not criteria. They will not get a physical body because of transgressions against themselves/nature by way of whole sale self destruction. With no body to act out their desires with they now will attempt to vicariously enjoy through you. Hence the condition of being haunted or bothered by ghosts.

But fear not they have no actual power over this physical world on average. Fear is food to them! Fight fear with knowledge of them and defeat their influence over you. Intoxication weakens you and draws them very close, use sparingly only once in a month on the dark moon night. And only for the sudra in this way. Other varnas have different rules concerning intoxication. Mostly not!

Thank you

RCB

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

RCB

To understand you - one has only to say PROVE IT!

Your words are empty

[RCBTraveler]

Aug 2, 2008 14:38:44 GMT -5 Caligastia Lanonandek said:

RCB

To understand you - one has only to say PROVE IT!

Your words are empty

They weren't my words. Proof is in the practical experience and application, you can believe or not, doesn't matter to truth. I renounce the results, so it doesn't matter to me either. Impose your faith as you like.

RCB

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

RCB

Thank you - you've proven the template of the same double talkers that have arrived before you.

No proof.

[RCBTraveler]

Aug 3, 2008 6:11:11 GMT -5 Caligastia Lanonandek said:

RCB

Thank you - you've proven the template of the same double talkers that have arrived before you.

No proof.

Kind of like reading your web site? IT IS JUST WEB RHETORIC. There is nothing in this site I can apply for myself in my intimately person spiritual connection with God that would expand or enhance my realizations. You have no proof, a web site with quasi interesting stuff. I have interest in inquiring around, fisher of men, looking for like minds on some platform. If not spiritual then material, ghosts are material I have seen them all my life. But it is impossible to 'prove' to the obtuse mind, as is commonly know throughout history.

Here is another one for you. I'm have spent much time out of the US and am not sure where I head this first but I have used this for unruly ghosts that give a bad time to me or my children for at least 40 some odd years. Take a sharp knife and slash the air like a ninja mad man!!!! Over, under, side ways, down. Literally under tables, in closets especially, leave not one space bigger than that of a full size human body could 'move' through. It cuts the ether and makes it impossible for ghosts to now move in that space. Go back to sleep, it takes about 2-4 hours for the ether to repair its self and the ghosts will be very reluctant to re haunt you for sometime. They are very disturb by this and intimidated. Put in there place as it were. They have no power over you that you do not give, mostly. There are exceptions, but this has always worked for me. Even with some very strong, bad entities. There are no terrifying dreams my children have had in their lives that I could not STOP! I have 10 children! Now adults, and they have also used this method and 'cleared the air' for themselves and others.

This is the only proof I have. Personal experience.

My information came from millions and billions of eons ago. You are a child at 500k! Past down continuously from master to disciple. Occasional slack being filled in by Visnu. The last intervention was conspicuously at the time of the old testament thereabouts and unbroken up to now. And as a disciple of this line I try to past it to others. If you do not like! Then even the Supreme Personality of Godhead can not 'make' you aqueous. Free will you know!

Chao

RCB

[mark]

In Vaisnava Culture, one only speaks when they have been well versed in the version of the Father of all beings through aural reception, mouth to ear, or scribe to eye.

The Father is a person, and being the Supreme Personality of both the eternal realm, and the temporal theatre, he may appear in both as he wills. Stand before you just like any other person, looking like himself. But he can relate with you, and do things that no ordinary person can. Or he can seem as ordinary at times, as we understand the term.

Though he is known to disguise his most regular bodily appearance, he tends to look the same when encountered.

He is the most beautiful and famous of persons, the most knowledgable, opulent, the strongest and most renounced of illusion.

He is the source of all the qualities that we in small ways may reflect.

A most confidential name he is called is Krsna (Krishna). It is Sanskrit for "The All Attractive". Sometimes even in India pronounced Krista for many thousands of years.

He personally spoke, the divine wisdom of the Bhagavad Gita to his dearest friend and disciple Arjuna on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra 5000 years ago.

Considered the essence and topmost authority of the Vedic scriptural literature, if one referes to the knowledge therein when speaking, whose words can be verified by the knowledge given by Father by his own words recorded in that scripture, he speaks upon the highest most unassailable evidence of proof of fact.

It takes one versed in that scripture, who is faithful and true to the instructions given by Father in this lineage of activity that He stimulated and guided personally, who could translate the Sanskrit to English and present the Bhagavad Gita without ulterior motive, the way a Bible is meant to be passed along.

B.Swami professed that India is so perverted from its heritage that he could hardly find one Bhagavad Gita translation that did not condemn and obscure Father as just an ordinary but uniquely wise and powerful historical personage named Krishna. But B.Swami's lineage is chaste to the truth and unbroken, so he reveals Father's activities and song that day, and through the Bhagavatam many other stories of how he personally influenced the world as teacher, statesman, husband to queens, and mystical cowherd boy.

The Puranas and Vedas, far outdating any other known scriptures and books of knowledge, agree that of all ways to induce knowledge, such as direct experience, logic, inference, intuition, etc., the highest and most perfect is the deductive or descending process, hearing from authority.

I have known RCB for 2 years. He does Father proud. There is not one thing he shares for anothers benefit, whether a mundane tidbit about how to deal with ghosts, to uses for cow dung, to the nature of the Lord's name, not one thing that I haven't found backed up by Srila Prabhupada's Gita or Bhagavatam, which according to the Vaisnavas have all the knowledge needed for human beings to live a good life in service to God, material to spiritual A-Z.

Just like Cal has shown me proof so many years up til now, well, if you are willing to read the Gita and Bhagavatam like I have, the revelatory nature of the knowledge therein hits you like a ton of bricks, just like finally getting something substantial out of the Bible through the Rev code, or when you read a parable given by Jesus and you see why they say the Bible is the word of God.

Evidence of others who practice Gaudiya Vaisnavism and are good "ascendant" souls? Most communities are in India, most small and not very opulent, but rich where it counts.

Now that everyone at PHQ knows that I claim this, the Bhagavad Gita "As It Is" is available in hardcover with stunning cover art and full color art inside, in 5''x7-1/2 '' for about 6-10 bucks, 6x9" for about 10-12 bucks in a few places on the net. 1972 Macmillan edition is the only one, all future editions were edited by sinister and unscrupulous disciples.

You'll see. "From Father's mouth to your ears" as Cal once said.

Don't put it past him to have done this. I can't prove it. But reading of the Bhagavad Gita As It Is might, especially if one already has a relationship with God. For such as yourselves here at PHQ. It is like the best whip cream and hot fudge on top of what you were already enjoying.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

RCB and Mark

We are in agreement. HQ has nothing for you - so what are you doing here beyond spewing Hindu drivel that the readers here aren't interested in?

HQ offers sufficient provings to those who are inclined to actually read it. If you don't see it - I'll live.
This returns to the question of wha t you're doing here when there is nothing of value.

Is there any established patron of this forum who finds something agreeable in the idea that the annilihation of mankind on Earth is a good thing? Or is anyone interested in the rantings of Swami Boogie Woogie? If so - speak up - after all - I could be wrong. (but not likely).

Cal

[RCBTraveler]

Aug 3, 2008 16:41:50 GMT -5 Caligastia Lanonandek said:

RCB and Mark

We are in agreement. HQ has nothing for you - so what are you doing here beyond spewing Hindu drivel that the readers here aren't interested in?

HQ offers sufficient provings to those who are inclined to actually read it. If you don't see it - I'll live.
This returns to the question of wha t you're doing here when there is nothing of value.

Is there any established patron of this forum who finds something agreeable in the idea that the annilihation of mankind on Earth is a good thing? Or is anyone interested in the rantings of Swami Boogie Woogie? If so - speak up - after all - I could be wrong. (but not likely).

Cal

Actually Cal I like you! I have not read everything you wrote, I admit. But I calculate I have seen/read 25%. All the last 10 pages though. I do not think this place is useless. Any place where the topics of God are discussed has great value, please trust my word on this, I am revealing my feeling/faith honestly.

As for what you speak as reality I can see it to be true from a particular point of view. In other words a thing that is relative as opposed to eternal. Both are truth one is a semi-conclusion. Definitely a possible truth, I'm open to many possibilities and realms of reality, your explanations could very well be bonaified. I've seen to much in my 60 years to ect off hand. Now wouldn't I look stupid, with egg(ugh) on my face, if you were a truther and I rejected like an adolescent child? Thats not me I'm more careful than that.

There an other thing beyond the information you touch on. I have seen I think you admitting to not having full understanding of fathers mind. Is that right? Then would you deny the possibility that someone else not of your choosing COULD have Father's mind embraced with his heart? A dangerous place to put one's self! I always side step that one. We call that an offense at the feet of devotees, because they are as good as Father Himself, as Father explains to us. So I concider you a bonifid type of transendentalest/devotee and there maybe value in our meeting.

I would think a King would recognize a kindred spirit when he sees one. Or at least give visitors a better well come than to offer injury to insult. I have not intentionally insulted you nor you faith. I expected the planetary prince to be more of a gentleman to visitors

That is way I came here. But at your request I will blend back into the walls of cyberspace, its all cornflakes anyhow. LOL

Hare Krsna

RCB

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

>>>>I would think a King would recognize a kindred spirit when he sees one. Or at least give visitors a better well come than to offer injury to insult. I have not intentionally insulted you nor you faith.

Ah, so you're one of those who come expecting me to recognize, confirm and proclaim your greatness to the world. Again, many have come before you.

Insulting my faith?

Not a possibility. My faith is in logic, reason and fact - mine. My service is to the Father.

I call it like it see it and if you find the truth insulting - perhaps you should alter your act. Arriving here expecting the readers to be gullible and stupid IS insulting.

You've already shown your backside buddy. It doesn't get better from here.

[hollis]

Is there any established patron of this forum who finds something agreeable in the idea that the annilihation of mankind on Earth is a good thing? Or is anyone interested in the rantings of Swami Boogie Woogie?

I will at first assume that I am considered a patron of this forum. I don't find the wholesale destruction of humanity all that appealing, nor am I too interested in the teachings of names I cannot pronounce. However, it is nice to watch someone else besides me get beat up for a while.

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Hollis

You get beat up? Nah!

REV 3 19 AS MANY AS I LOVE I REBUKE AND CHASTEN BE ZEALOUS THEREFORE AND REPENT