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Post by max on Jul 8, 2008 17:15:06 GMT -5
Conservatives (Mainstream Americans) have been ignored by Republicans and Democrats alike... There is a new party. America’s Independent Party is THE NEW HOME OF CONSERVATISM in America! www.selfgovernment.us/aip/"Our purpose? The same as the stated purpose of the U.S. Constitution: “To secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity.” That’s why we’re pro-life and pro-liberty, and will always unswervingly support a strong and secure America. Along with the signers of the Declaration of Independence, we believe in the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, that our unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness come from our Creator, and that just government can only exist by the consent of the governed. We call these “America’s Principles.” We are recruiting, training and equipping a new generation of leaders – patriotic men and women who will courageously act to implement those principles. History proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt: AMERICA’S PRINCIPLES WORK when the people put them into practice. America’s Independent Party is committed to restoring government of, by and for the people – not just in words, but by DEDICATED, ORGANIZED, UNITED ACTION. America’s Independent Party endorses candidates based on principle, not party affiliation. As principled Independents, we intend to change America’s political culture by example. ... If you believe as we do, please join with us today." Dr Keyes IS the only candidate that puts God first then America, as our Founders intended when they wrote the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the United States. Anyone who believes as the founders did should read the America's Independent Party Platform at the link above. I have never said the following words nor written them but, since some people seem bent on voting color - Dr Keyes is black. To me, he is a great man with the best ideas for our Nation! He is intelligent and speaks from the heart (not a teleprompter). He believes in God and puts God first, as it should be.
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Jul 9, 2008 2:32:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately, a third party has no chance in a presidential race.
The fall of Rome resulted from the fact the the senate eventually stripped the Caesar of any power and went to a 100% democratic system because they knew they could buy votes. This resulted in the collapse of the Roman Empire due to internal corruption.
The founding fathers of this nation knew the history and established a criteria for voting. You had to own property. This skewed the system to the right of center. The Supreme Court, ignoring history, over rode the founding fathers and established one man - one vote and today public resources are dedicated to the point of buying votes. Rome all over again. Rome's demise began at about 200 years. We're 230 years.
The founding father's also gave us a number of fail safes.
1. The vote (this has mostly failed) 2. 2nd Amendment (we're not that far along but we're getting close) 3. Martial Law - the issue is whether we have a president willing to use this constitutional form of government for reinstituting the Constitution. The odds are against.
Thus we come to the Revelation Code and the solutions found therein. A democratic republic under the control of a benign dictator.
We'll see how it turns out.
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Post by max on Jul 10, 2008 12:40:21 GMT -5
Cal, you probably know that I am under no delusion of a 3rd Party win.
Those who say, A. 3rd party votes siphon votes or B. 3rd party votes pull votes that are needed to vote against ‘someone’ or C, are wasted votes; are doing exactly as ‘the party’ wants (both dems and reps play that game). IMO to believe either A, B or C, is to vote from ‘fear’, as well as telling others how to vote and not realizing that some people will only vote their conscience.
I choose to vote for love of country and believe that voting from fear is part of the problem. The prerequisite of ‘land ownership’ should NEVER have been changed. Those who were vested in the land understood why our Republican form of government needed to be protected. Too many ‘voters’ today don’t understand the founders intent for the ‘governments job’, and believe we were created a democracy. Since they are willing to vote themselves ‘money’ that is stolen from the people (income tax being against the Constitution), IMO they vote from selfishness and fear instead of love of country and liberty.
This website is one of the very few places of ‘the truth’ and even if only one other person also truly believes in the oath they swore to (in Gods name); this gives them an avenue to vote their conscience. I cannot vote for BO or JM and still uphold my oath. Dr. Keyes allows me to vote and still abide by the oath [… to protect, defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. …]. IMO ALL of the Presidential candidate are enemies of the Constitution, except Keyes. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
The bottom line – I know that I am only responsible for me – for my choices.
I do always enjoy your responses, for just when I think I have wrapped my mind around the issue(s) you help tie together even more information or add history for comparison, creating an even ‘bigger picture’ [e.g. the comparison to the demise of Rome – a great reminder!]. I don’t know if Keyes would be willing to institute Marital Law – I don’t see why not. I think he knows that may be the only way ‘restoring the Constitution’ can be accomplished today. He intends to restore the Constitution and the Declaration, but I have never seen, read or heard ‘Martial Law’ being involved.
Mostly, I was hoping your comment, ‘Bush would be our last elected President’, will prove to be 100% true.
Another interesting note: Whenever someone is arrested they are read their rights. One right is the ‘right against self-incrimination’. Yet, every time we fill out an IRS tax form we give up that right just by signing it. Our system of government has indeed become a ‘schizophrenic system’.
Karl Marx said, “Democracy leads to Socialism”, and “Socialism leads to Communism”. He also said, ”My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.”
Even knowing this [Marx's quotes] I hadn't realized (your comment) 'Communism can NOT exist with God' - the whole truth.
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Post by max on Jul 10, 2008 12:49:34 GMT -5
”Capitalism and Communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this: The communist, seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: ”No man should have so much.” The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: “All men should have so much.” I forget who said this
“Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English.” George Bernard Shaw
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Post by max on Jul 10, 2008 12:58:01 GMT -5
"Capitalism is our only moral system. All other systems take advantage of man's rights and liberties." Ayn Rand
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Jul 10, 2008 14:14:43 GMT -5
Max
Ross Perot was put up by Clinton to run as the republican candidate and created a 3rd party to do it. When it looked like he might win - he quit the race throwing it to Clinton.
In Oregon - the green party candidate split off enough votes from the democrats to give the edge to Bush.
I agree that the lesser of two evils is evil. Yet, I've never had one election where I had a candidate I could 100% believe in.
If you want to see the history of this moment read the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. History repeats and its source is always in the corruption of spirit of those who seek power over others
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Post by max on Jul 10, 2008 16:29:35 GMT -5
Cal, I do know that 3rd party votes have siphoned off votes. Votes that the party's believe 'they own'. I was speaking mainly about phrases people use when trying to get others not to leave the 2-party system (and the fear behind it)- I can see it could have been worded better. Thanks, for ALL the info. I didn't know the specifics on Oregan or Perot. I like to read a lot, but I have never believed one human can ever know it all - especially today with the abundance of info out there.
Now you, are different, not just 'human' like us - partly thanks to your implant. When I went through your planetaryhq website the first time (when I was trying to figure out who you are) I took over 30 multiple-page documents full of notes, read your book, and used my brain till it squeaked. I concluded that there were so many things that said 'you spoke the truth'. The one part I could not shake off was the Revelation Code speaking to the fact that whoever breaks the code is the planetary prince. I tried every which way I knew to find you either 'a fraud' or for 'real'... I am glad Father saw fit to send us help! I don't think he forces you to do the websites (or made it mandatory - freewill and all) so I am glad you take the time to keep both sites up to date, and keep us informed.
I would like to read that book (rise and fall of the roman empire).... I am sure it parallels much of what we see in America, today.
All in all, I would rather not vote, than to vote for evil - and as a 'landowner' that is very hard for me to say.
"Ross Perot was put up by Clinton to run as the republican candidate and created a 3rd party to do it. When it looked like he might win - he quit the race throwing it to Clinton." Wow! I have never ever heard or read that information! What an eye-opener. I'll bet the Clintons never bet on that! The Clintons hardly ever suprise me anymore... I knew there was not much they wouldn't do (if anything)- so when BO started overtaking Hill I was waiting for him to get killed - just add his name to the hundreds of others... or at least harmed to the point he couldn't possibly hold office. If not killed or maimed, then they must have something in the works, a wild card that he wil not be able to overcome.
That reminds me... When Congress is imprisoned will Bill Clinton be hung for treason? For his selling of MRV technology to China - among other things? Or do people like him also get a second chance in the last seven years?
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Jul 10, 2008 18:43:04 GMT -5
You don't have to know it 'all'. Knowing enough is sufficient.
>>I don't think he forces you to do the websites (or made it mandatory - freewill and all) so I am glad you take the time to keep both sites up to date, and keep us informed.
Have you ever wondered what Jesus could have done if he had the web?
I have a couple of purposes in the web site. One is to inform. More importantly, it is to time stamp my arrival so that no one thinks aliens are invading from outer space. The very last thing I want is to see a repeat of Orson Welles War of the Worlds broadcast.
If you saw a sky full of ufos, you'd be concerned. If you saw them making the shapes of Snoopy or Mickey Mouse - you'd more likely be entertained.
I was the first to arrive here and I'll be the last to leave. One can not invade that which one occupied 'first'.
>>I would like to read that book (rise and fall of the roman empire).... I am sure it parallels much of what we see in America, today.
It has been around a long time - you should find it in the library
>"Ross Perot was put up by Clinton to run as the republican candidate and created a 3rd party to do it. When it looked like he might win - he quit the race throwing it to Clinton." Wow! I have never ever heard or read that information! What an eye-opener.
You heard it first here. No one was willing to cite the fact that Perot made his millions via a computer company that serviced GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. Read that as Democrat contracts. The man wasn't stupid enough to bite the hand that fed him and he never intended or wanted to be president. He was a shill from the beginning.
As I've said before, Bill receives the traitor's reward. It is not judicious to say more of a president.
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Post by max on Jul 10, 2008 19:21:46 GMT -5
You don't have to know it 'all'. Knowing enough is sufficient.... and it helps that you are here to provide 'the truth'. There are so many who are brilliant at spinning and weaving the truth until it is 1% truth 99% lies, or making up lies which sound like truth. IF people are not willing to search for 'the truth' themselves and just accept what others say... they will end up with a lot of 'knowledge' but 'NO Truth'. Have you ever wondered what Jesus could have done if he had the web? I never thought about it - I'll have to give that some thought. I do know that some people still would not choose to see 'the truth' he speaks/spoke. "Ross Perot was put up by Clinton to run" Personally, I didn't like him - he had big money support, all the networks gave him time, etc. My 'knower' said 'something is off here' ... but, I never imagined the Clinton part. I like the 'you heard it here first' tidbits you divulge to us . Thanks Cal.
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Jul 10, 2008 20:58:03 GMT -5
Thank you for your kind words
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