Pope renounces God's name?

[mark]

I was raised Roman Catholic. When I was young, I thought God's name was God. So pervasive already was the rejection of His name.

Apparently there was a name he used to go by a long time ago, a name some still know of an use even today.

It is not surprising that someone would wish to reduce further such a practice, but it was a bit surprising, at first, at who has taken up the banner.

It looks like the Church leaders led by the Pope, Mr. Rat Zinger, have succumbed to peer pressure from a certain lobby (known to have rejected Jesus) and are officially renouncing the Lord's proper name based on the advice of said lobby group, who claim it is due reverence to address God as Lord only, and never speak his name.

This goes against many Biblical injunctions which speak of the ulitimate shelter given by the Lord's NAME.

Looks like its official. The Church has rejected God's name to assuage the members of the Sin-a-Gog of Satan.

I'll stick with God's name, and reject the Church.

All glories to Yahweh.

[mark]

Link to story from Catholic News service.

www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0804119.htm

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

>>>The Tetragrammaton is YHWH, the four consonants of the ancient Hebrew name for God.

Mark - there is more to this than meets the average eye because the Vatican knows something the average person doesn't.

Yahweh is the Jewish name for I AM aka the God of the Earth - the 4th Alpha and Omega.

2000 years of erroneous Christian interpretation led them to believe this was Satan. They now know this isn't true. I'm not going to get into the details of this but I am speaking from first hand info.

The decryption sequence that shows the 4th alpha and omega to be in cahoots with Father and Sons is thus.

Alpha and Omega First and Last
Churches
Candlesticks
= God of the Earth.

Additionally, the term god of the earth appears in the bible only twice. Once in genesis and once in revelation - the alpha and the omega of the bible.

Also, the name Jesus Christ appears in the first line of revelation and the last line. The alpha and omega of John's work. It infers the Son's Imprimatur on the writing. This also is clearly stated at the beginning of Revelation.

The church is rejecting the 4th alpha and omega. However, you can't reject one without rejecting all.

Ratty is beginning to show his ass.

I posed a question to them at one point.

At rapture plus one day, what worth will your church or your religion have when there are no soulful people left to minister to it?

They had no answer.

The truth is a creation of the Father. Religion is an invention of man. One has a higher order of perfection than the other. While religion has done a great deal of good over time, it has also done a significant portion of bad. Yet, a reasoned person does not throw the baby out with the bathwater and one must give recognition to that fact that, in spite of so many interpretative failures, Christianity did faithfully pass forward the first person teachings of Jesus. If this was the only good thing they did - it would have been enough.

The Rat Man is the last pope and let there be no doubt he is evil to the core. He will hand the church over to the anti-christ. It is so written into the revelation code.

[hollis]

I posed a question to them at one point.

At rapture plus one day, what worth will your church or your religion have when there are no soulful people left to minister to it?

They had no answer.


Dare I ask how you posed this question?

[mark]

Cal,

I understand that there are simultaneously similarities and differences between the Supreme Person God, and his empowered representatives in the form of sons and servants.

While they are to be treated with the same reverence and respect, such Gods with a small "g" look to please the Supreme God's desire and plan, and though very exalted and wonderful in their own right, lack certain definable characteristics that put the "S" in Supreme.

Likewise, each has a name that others who know Him personally will call him by, even if it is simply "Father" or "Son" used affectionately according to their relationship.

A father does not call his son father, and visa versa. Also, most sons do not call their father by his proper name.

Jesus came to ultimately teach how to Love God (his Father) and to see how God is present in thy neighbor. All the rest of his lessons were pursuant to this goal.

A name is an intimate thing, and it seems that remembering one's father and calling to him as a child would is appropriate, thus "Our Father".

To know the name of our Father is no small thing.

It was nice to know that something was passed on properly by the Catholic Church, at least for a time. Yahweh. I can remember hearing that name a few times in High School.

If Yahweh was one of your names, then that is nice. All glories to your service.

You must have evoked quite a reverential mood in the ancient Hebrews.

Now there is a subset of Jews who refuse to speak your name or any name of God. It seems like taking the injunction not to use God's name in vain a little too far. Either that or they are so proud and confident in themselves that they will relegate God to an unnamed impersonal universal order supplier.

Anyway thanks for the clarification.

Mark

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

I agree that this prohibition on speaking a word is nonsense.

I disagree that this is the Vatican's point. Let us not forget that organized religion is (contrary to the wishes of Jesus) a business. If you've been teaching erroneous material for 2000 years, you can see how the truth might be bad for business.

Contrary to the Vatican's spin - Ratty adored Hitler almost to the point of deification. It shouldn't be a surprise that he left one facist organization to join another. The centralized dictatorial government of the Vatican is fascist by any definition.

Hitler, aka the Anti-Christ, will be back and Ratty will worship at his feet and hand him the keys to the church.

As for big g or little g. one needs to understand what the word god actually means.
It refers to He who is master of a timeline. Normally, there are only 3 - the Trinity. The 4th is specific to this moment and I expect things will return to the normal 3 after the war in heaven.

These are

The Father - the Creator
Immanuel, the only begotten of the father, Almighty God.
Michael, the Son of God (Immanuel), aka Jesus.

Then the God of the Earth - Caligastia

Each rules at his own level. Personally, I don't care for the title and will be glad when it passes.

Now, Christians have been taught Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Ghost. Those teaching this material knew it was wrong.

JOH 1 18 NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WHICH IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER HE HATH DECLARED HIM

What John actually says is Father, The Word and the Holy Spirit (Ghost)

The word is also defined as the only begotten. No man has ever seen the only begotten - it follows that Jesus can't be 'the word' or the 'only begotten' because he was 'seen' and recognized for who and what He is.

The Holy Ghost is left hanging as some mystery no one can understand when, in fact, as Immanuel is the Word, Jesus is the Holy Spirit (who was seen).

Now, thee are only two possibilities. Those given to writing theology were ignorant or stupid, or deliberately misleading. Herein we have to fall back on the overriding basic truth that religion is a business selling a commodity and the last thing they are going to be inclined to do is to admit massive and significant error. It's bad for business

[mark]

Yahweh is actually very pleasant to say, and has high vibratory phonics.

I used to pass out in the pew in mass quite often in my youth. Embarassed my father, but for me it meant I got to get out of there and go sit in the car where I could be safe with my thoughts.

I was not treated to a foundational theological education, so alot of what the deacon was saying came across like Charlie Brown's teacher talking. Blah Blah Blah.

I was not a true believer who could just agree with any old thing if I could not relate it to something I knew to be true. I toed the line socially and was agreeable because I was a kid, and that was my nature, but I witheld my heart and conscience.

I never understood anything clearly about Theism and Deity until I was schooled by the practically unknown Gaudiyas from India, through the only Bhagavad Gita true to its source.

None of what I know to be true about the Supreme Person and His dealings has gelled with the Bible. Until the Rev.code and your explanations.

The Father, Creator of all Seen and Unseen begot Immanuel, Almighty God of this Universe.

Immanuel had at least one son, and his name is Jesus.

Love of God (The Father) and thus a decision to serve Him is the end goal. Jesus' teachings and instructions were to be religiously executed by anyone who wanted to have the Love of God Jesus had. Everyone loves their father, but coming to know and then loving God the Father of all Creations seen and unseen is more rare and is the most sublime. So when Jesus spoke of God the Father, I doubt he was referring to Immanuel.

So in the same way you point to service to Father as superior, and do not try to get others to serve your father as supreme, I see that Jesus and Immanuel both have the same goal, as do any who come in Father's name.

Father's name. Now there is another topic.

As far as the Facism of the Godless in the name of God, pretty scary stuff, excellent to build the character of those who oppose it. There is an experience I have when around the minions (priests and politicians) of such Anti-Christ tyrants. It is an invisible occurance, but if it could be seen it would be like they have a couple unseen ghostly servants who attach vaccuum hoses from me to the creep, and my life force begins whisking away to pump em up. Even being in the same vacinity (on a street or in a store) as one of them I can sense their ghostly antennae are probing for an opening and I will look up from what I am doing and find them turning to look my way. Creepy.
Like Black holes on legs.

good night

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

>>> So when Jesus spoke of God the Father, I doubt he was referring to Immanuel.

REV 1 16 AND HE HAD IN HIS RIGHT HAND SEVEN STARS AND OUT OF HIS MOUTH WENT A SHARP TWOEDGED SWORD AND HIS COUNTENANCE WAS AS THE SUN SHINETH IN HIS STRENGTH

Actually, both can be true. Christian theologians missed the import of it and its warning that one word could have two meanings. What comes out of our mouths? Words. What does it mean when a word has two edges? Two meanings.

They've been picking nits for 2000 years over the translations of words never allowing that both could simultaneously be correct.

So also it is with the relationships of Jesus to Immanuel. When speaking of 'his' father, he could be addressing both.

There are currently 8 universes. 6 are inhabited. The ascendants from Earth are the first wave to go to the 7th. Immanuel created all and of the 6, each is ruled by a Son of God (ie Immanuel). View it as a family business.

As with other Christian fallacies, the information was provided and sat right under their noses unseen for 2000 years.

In the beginning was the Word (Immanuel) and the Word was with God (the Father) and the Word was God. He (Immanuel) was in the beginning with Him (Father) and without Him (Immanuel) was made nothing that has been made.

In him was life and that life was the light of men. The light shone in the darkness and the darkness grasped it not.

This verse serves as a cross confirmation that Immanuel is the Word (not Jesus) and that no man has ever seen Him or recognized Him

And the Word was made flesh - and dwelt amongst us.

Father empowered Immanuel to create the Cosmos and all the life within it - us included.

It matters not to me or Father how one comes to the light. It is only important that one does.
If your guru has guided you this far - great. Yet, be aware as a man he is limited. The rest of your journey is between you and Father and at this point - you may very well have outgrown your mentor and it is Father alone who decides who walks with His voice and he supplies proof to the anointing.

As for your psychic vampires.

No one can take anything from you that you aren't willing to first grant them. I've walked in the dark places that others fear. While I'd prefer not to, it is the nature of my journey that, on occasion, I must and I am armoured against it by a loving Father.

[Parn]

What about psychic vampires?

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Parn - from the previous post

>>>>No one can take anything from you that you aren't willing to first grant them. I've walked in the dark places that others fear. While I'd prefer not to, it is the nature of my journey that, on occasion, I must and I am armoured against it by a loving Father.

[Parn]

I read that, I asked about it because I didn't see the term show up anywhere else on this thread except that last part of your post.