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Post by Caligastia on Jun 8, 2009 21:53:34 GMT -5
Per code, the length and breadeth of the 'city' is 1100 miles in all directions from Canon City Colorado. (give or take a few miles).
This encompasses all of the US, Canada and Mexico.
Of the 20 million illegals here now, half will be gone at rapture leaving 10 million. Of these, half will be men - 5 million.
These will be offered citizenship in return for 4 years service in the US military. A corp of Hispanics will be constructed primarily of Mexicans. Once trained, they will move across the border into Mexico to replace the corrupted government there, their military and the police. While mexico will retain its national identity, it will also be considered a 'state' of the US and will immediately receive the benefits of association.
Once there, Guatamala will be next and so on until all of the Americas are joined under one roof. It is from these that the 200 million man army referenced in the code is raised.
Not one shot will be fired and this force will also have the advantages of some of our technologies. Not that these will be given to them, but services will be provided for them.
Simon Bolivar, the conquerer of most of the Americas, once had the dream of all the Americas joined together. This dream will come to pass.
Corruption will be removed, Justice restored and the quality of life improved enormously for all. The people, in general, will be happy with the changes and none of this will require communism .
For the US, the Constitution (under martial law) will be restored to its original form with 10 amendments. Before we can remove corruption from other countries, it has to be removed from here first. This is the first step in this journey.
Mexico is a nation rich in resources and people but for the corruption there, they could have been an economic rival to the US. By way of the example, Pemex, the state controlled oil company used to make gasoline. It wasn't very good gas. The high sulpher content made the exhaust smell like rotten eggs. Regardless, it would power a car.
You can't get a job with Pemex unless you've got family there willing to use their influence to bring you in. After generations of this Nepotism, Pemex can't make its own gas. It sends oil to the US and we refine it for them. Hiring people based upon familial relationships instead of actual skills, has driven them into the ground. This is corruption that insures that people with the highest potential can never get ahead and establishes the yardstick of common mediocrity found in communist countries.
You are born into your class and you will never be allowed to better yourself.
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Post by Abdiel on Jun 9, 2009 2:02:38 GMT -5
Nepotism, it's a repeating theme here in México.
CFE, Federal Electricity Commission, also works on the same basis as Pemex, if your old man works at CFE, he has the "worker's right" to let you in. Result, Mexico's City power shortages are famous, some electrical equipment dates from the 70's if that. Some indutries have losses everytime there's a shortage; and we the people cannot generate our own electricity...
IMSS, Mexican Institute of Social Security (Health), they have the "worker's right" that those with 21 years of service can retire. ¿Result? People retiring at 45 or less, at other people's expense, of course.
SEP, Secretariat of Public Education, those who estudied for teacher's in the special state's university to do so, they used to have "the right" to have job just because they studied there, never mind qualifications, you "have the right". Result: unmotivated teachers, with poor teaching skills, making our children ignorant illiterates. Now that the system has reformed teacher's are requiere to comply to minimum standards, ¿what some teachers do(specially in southern states)? Riots, protests, marchs, and those can get really violent (I heard about home made flame throwers). ¿Kids? At home learning, poverty is a genetic desease. ¿Who motivates those riots? The Teacher's Union, controlled by the same woman the last 25 years.
There are reforms, but they can do very little, since you cannot get fired. Without incentive there's little motivation. If you find out that any of the above things is happening to your country, it has got socialism, and it's a terminal desease. Patient has to fight and really should want to live, otherwise he will perish.
I grew up in our national eclectic version of socialism. Learning how "the rich guy" (the USA) was the mean guy and we were "the good guy". Everything under the asumption that if you are rich, you should have done something inmoral to get rich. I was taught that we were a "better" country. But even as a kid, I asked myself, ¿why so many want to go to USA if Mexico is supposedly better?
Well, it took me a long time to figure that out. To figure out what USA was all about. I had to meet real Americans to know America.
Some Americans don't know how hard is to grasp the real America, outside of America. The old time lies from the cold war, the national lies that justify the lack of progress making the USA guilty of every national problem and finally the lies many Americans believe about themselves. All those have raised a Wall of Ignorance surrounding America. And that Wall of Ignorance has prevented the understading of the American Dream.
The American Dream, is not American at all, it's a Universal Dream. It's the dream of personal freedom. It's a dream where your personal means can take you far. It's a dream where you can be the McGiver. It's the dream where you can do a lot with very little. When you have all the freedom you can get, air feels lighter and easier to breath, the hands are restless, the colors are brighter, because you know, you are your only limit. It's a the dream of dreams. Because it's the dream where you know your dreams can come true.
And You Americans, You will share the American Dream, and it will stop being just the USA's Dream to become the Americas' Dream, then the Planetary Dream and Finally the Universal Dream.
So we are not to be part of USA, we are going to be part of the same dream.
Abdiel.
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Post by VM on Jun 9, 2009 13:24:22 GMT -5
Abdiel, that was beautiful! I've got tears in my my eyes from reading that.
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Post by Adam on Jun 9, 2009 14:59:03 GMT -5
Hey now, American idealism is an objective we are all (I assume) expected to evolve and achieve.
Dreams are subjective and some are objective ( depending on the evolutionary moment ) of the individual.
I don't know who came up with the American dream but I consider the term short of the mark of understanding and enlightenment.
I would submit that : Idealism is: "in name and truth the unlimited right of Idea in a world where nothing is ultimately irrational.
While I agree that we are all Americans - I don't believe the term American dream to be appropriately used in defining an American. Sounds like some sort of mass marketing scheme to me.
Americans - Ideals are well founded, not on a dream but threw evolutionary hard work. And the Love of the Creator Father.
I agree with abdiel, just not within the context of how he said it.
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Post by e-Male on Jun 9, 2009 16:48:22 GMT -5
Hey now, American idealism is an objective we are all (I assume) expected to evolve and achieve. Dreams are subjective and some are objective ( depending on the evolutionary moment ) of the individual. I don't know who came up with the American dream but I consider the term short of the mark of understanding and enlightenment. ... Dave, I have to disagree with that sentiment. I think that the author who coined that phrase "American Dream" had it nailed, and it's something that everyone, everywhere should aspire to. Here's a write up about the original use: What is the American Dream?
The term was first used by James Truslow Adams in his book The Epic of America which was written in 1931. He states: "The American Dream is "that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement. It is a difficult dream for the European upper classes to interpret adequately, and too many of us ourselves have grown weary and mistrustful of it. It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."
In the United States’ Declaration of Independence, our founding fathers: "…held certain truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Might this sentiment be considered the foundation of the American Dream? ...<snip>/e
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Post by Caligastia on Jun 9, 2009 23:25:55 GMT -5
Abdiel
Well spoken hermano.
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Post by Adam on Jun 10, 2009 3:32:42 GMT -5
Dave, I have to disagree with that sentiment. I think that the author who coined that phrase "American Dream" had it nailed, and it's something that everyone, everywhere should aspire to. Dave comment: Standing behind the wall of American ignorance....I will pass on the American Dream. James Truslow Adams was a progressive. I have no respect for progressives. They stand against the Constitution and many have no regard for the truth. So be it...I prefer not to quote a progressive. His dream is my living nightmare. No wounder high school was so boring. James Truslow Adams (October 18, 1878 – May 18, 1949) was an American ... A devout Presbyterianism and leading intellectual of the Progressive Era, ... www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/James_Truslow_Adams - A quote from one of Adams' essays "There are obviously two educations. One should teach us how to make a living and the other how to live" is widely mis-attributed to John Adams. The quote is part of an essay by Adams entitled ‘To “Be” or to “Do”: A Note on American Education’ which appeared in the June, 1929 issue of Forum. The essay is very critical of American education, both in school and at the university level, and explores the role of American culture and class-consciousness in forming that system of education. In a more complete version of that quote,Adams says: ""There are obviously two educations. One should teach us how to make a living and the other how to live. Surely these should never be confused in the mind of any man who has the slightest inkling of what culture is. For most of us it is essential that we should make a living...In the complications of modern life and with our increased accumulation of knowledge, it doubtless helps greatly to compress some years of experience into far fewer years by studying for a particular trace or profession in an institution; but that fact should not blind us to another—namely, that in so doing we are learning a trade or a profession, but are not getting a liberal education as human beings." courses.wccnet.edu/~palay/cls2002/counts.htmWhen I say that Progressive Education should face all of these questions I do not mean merely that provision should be made in our progressive schools for children to study the problems of economics, government, and so on. This much, of course, should be done. But unless the Progressive Education movement wishes to change its name to the Contemplative Education movement, the Goodwill Education movement, or the Hopeful Education movement, it should go further. To my mind, a movement honestly styling itself progressive should engage in the positive task of creating a new tradition in American life – a tradition possessing power, appeal, and direction. James Truslow Adams has pointed out in his Epic of America that our chief contribution to the heritage of the race lies not in the field of science, or technology, or politics, or religion, or art, but rather in the creation of what he calls the American Dream – a vision of a society in which the lot of the common man will be made easier and his life enriched and ennobled. If this vision has been a moving force in our history, as I believe it has, then why should we not set ourselves the task of reconstituting and revitalizing it? This would seem to be the great need of our age, both in the realm of education and in the sphere of public life, because men must have something for which to live. Agnosticism, skepticism, and even experimentalism, unless the latter is given a more positive definition than has come to my attention, constitute an extremely meagre spiritual diet for any people. To be sure, a small band of intellectuals, a queer breed of men at best, may be satisfied with such a spare ration, but the masses, I am sure, will always require something more substantial and colorful. Ordinary men and women crave a tangible purpose for which to strive and which lends richness and dignity and meaning to life. I would consequently like to see Progressive Education come to grips with the problem of creating a tradition that has roots in American soil, is in harmony with the spirit of the age, recognizes the facts of industrialism, appeals to the most profound impulses of our people, and takes into account the emergence of world society.
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Post by Caligastia on Jun 10, 2009 5:50:23 GMT -5
Dave
Give me a call. Not sure you got my email
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Post by JB on Jun 10, 2009 10:05:14 GMT -5
Cal,
Even giving or taking a few miles, most of the eastern seaboard of USA lies approx 2000 miles from Canyon City.
Is this why Old One warned Rob that CT (the Northeast) would experience hard times? Everything east of Appalachia range becomes part of the EU or something and no longer be considered America? Even though America began here? Or did it?
A Jersey boy would like to know. Thanks.
JB
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Post by Adam on Jun 10, 2009 10:54:12 GMT -5
Yes Cal, I received your email, and thanx. Operation fun is on hold. I will Call you later.
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Post by rob on Jun 10, 2009 17:48:02 GMT -5
JB - that's not what Old One said. As I recall, Allie said she had a link from Old One which told her Jo and I had to leave the east coast to escape 'destruction'. At the time I assumed this meant an imminent terror attack, but in hindsight he may not have meant physical destruction. Perhaps he meant something mental or spiritual, and perhaps something specific to us. At that time we were struggling badly with money. The business I worked for was failing. It folded less than a month after my departure.
I'm just saying I don't think we know for sure what he meant by that.
Rob
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Post by JB on Jun 10, 2009 19:00:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification Rob.
Still interested to see how the distance factor reconciles with the code.
By the way, Connecticut is swirling down the toilet in many ways now, the government and corporate facists are really sticking it to the folks sad to say.
JB
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Post by Caligastia on Jun 10, 2009 22:49:37 GMT -5
JB
I used an online distance calculator with regards to my comments. Can't say it agrees with your 2000 miles. the distance between canon and DC is around 1100 miles.
Wirth regards to Rob, Old One put in some effort to get him and Josie out of CT. Now they both have good jobs in their own fields of endeavor. Something of a curiousity that they've in America's last frontier - Alaska.
While there - they also discovered the complex that is part of the rapture set up of 7 global facilities - one of the mates to Angel's Lair.
Also, Father frequently steps in where Rob and Jo are concerned.
These things, we don't report on HQ.
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Post by Jerseyboy on Jun 11, 2009 9:03:42 GMT -5
Cal, When I did my first calculation I used yahoo maps using their driving distance calculator from Montclair NJ. I considered that even with switchbacks, long arcing curves, mountain inclines etc, that 2000 miles would not reduce anywhere near 1100 as the crow flies. But when I heard your calculation of 1100 from Washingtonr DC to Canon city, that didn't seem right. So I checked 2 online distance calculator sites. Which calculate as the crow flies. www.geobytes.com/citydistancetool.htmwww.indo.com/distance/Montclair NJ - Canon City CO Geobytes = 1654 Indo = 1655 Baltimore MD - Canon City CO (Balt. is 40 miles NE of DC) Geo = 1538 Indo = 1538 Columbia WA - Canon City CO Indo = 1065 for Columbia in King County, Washington State 1112 for Columbia in Whatcom County, Washington State Perhaps the site you used misinterpreted and gave you the stats for Columbia Washington? Also, Bangor Maine is 1921 miles from Canon City CO. Your thoughts?
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Post by Malak hamavet on Jun 11, 2009 17:49:42 GMT -5
Is there any probable date to this event? What shall be the american administrative procedure to join Mexico to USA? Is gonna have a war declaration? USA army forces will invade mexican lands with deadly devices? Mexican soldiers of USA will kill mexican soldiers of Mexico? How many mexican people (civil and military) will be killed at this attempt? I'm not feeling good with this situation. Malak
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