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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Oct 9, 2008 0:34:06 GMT -5
I guess it's a good thing I'm not a physicist.
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Post by hollis on Oct 9, 2008 14:29:21 GMT -5
Because of Lanonandek arrogance gene?
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Oct 9, 2008 14:41:38 GMT -5
Nope - the Lanonandek wise ass gene  |
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Post by Jeremiah on Oct 11, 2008 3:44:27 GMT -5
you've said it literally... "wise ass gene" that's the only thing wise you have, your ass
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Oct 11, 2008 15:47:09 GMT -5
Jer - why don't you go back to your ubook forum and spread your venom there with like minds
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Oct 12, 2008 16:18:05 GMT -5
When my son was little - I told him the easter story. When done, I asked him to tell me his understanding of it.
He said, "Jesus died - took a 3 day vacation - then went back to work".
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Oct 12, 2008 16:30:11 GMT -5
Dinah
Life can be hard when you see others 'getting away' with evil deeds. Religion offers no comfort for those who seek to do good when those who don't profit so well from their miscreance. Their answer is 'God's gonna get ya for that' and some unspecified date in the future.
This sort of thing bends, warps and mutilates the hearts and minds of those who come to believe that there is no punishment or justice for those who predate upon their fellows.
Herein is a basic truth. The truth will be the same whereever you find it be it in religion or science and the Father delivers proofs always. The religion business failed to see this because for them to make their money - they demanded faith. Not in God - but in their interpretative dictums about God. God Himself, never made a demand for faith - he pony'd up the proof.
I agree with you that the users of this forum are of higher thought. They've been able to see the massive amount of evidence I've assembled here and have 'allowed' for the possibility that it might be true. There has never been a demand for faith or belief. In fact, in the very first writing - I made a point of stating 'i don't ask for your belief'. It is what it is. Take it or leave it.
Review the new thread on Matthew
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Post by dfurda18 on Oct 21, 2008 20:41:45 GMT -5
"Their answer is 'God's gonna get ya for that' and some unspecified date in the future." It makes more sense to me to say "You will get yourself for that at some unspecified date in the future." as far as I know according to God, he already got you for that. Time is for minds and personalities. Which brings me to the absurd question "If to God is all happening at the same "time", and if you do something wrong you will get punished. Is it valid if events happen the other way around? For God it should be all the same. Science is not perfect, is a way of reasoning that makes sure we are all in the same page. It works with facts that everyone can perceive. We can all see, so visual facts are valid for science. If we could all consciously feel everyone else's souls then it will be added as a type of valid facts. For now Science cant prove neither as Cal says. I do believe Father proves himself constantly to every one of us at a personal level (of course, I can only speak for myself), but since science doesn't accept experiences that can't be observed, this prove wont work for science. As Cal says, most of the arguments are different sides of the same coin, And this is probably one of them. It is up to us to find the tools to add it into the world's knowledge. You can't prove a negative as Cal says, thats what makes is a negative. But you can prove "something is a negative" or "something"<=> False Just add "something" and find out it leads you to a contradiction  Evolution is something that happens with every creature, And apes weren't the first kind of creatures in this world (according to what scientists have observed) which makes it unbelievable that we are the only specie that evolved socially like this. There has to be some intelligent design (or undiscovered fact) that gives sense to this. As Cal says, my vote is for both at the same time. lol like if democracy will make truth happen... |
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Post by stateofmind on Nov 12, 2008 12:04:33 GMT -5
"The evolutionists fail to answer one very basic and essential question upon which their entire premise rests: How can "something" come from "nothing"?"
Aren't "something" and "nothing" two sides of the same coin? You can't have something without nothing and vice versa. They give meaning to each other.
Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume the universe has always existed? Where's the need for a creator?
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Post by stephen on Nov 12, 2008 12:55:25 GMT -5
Ask an atheist...How does "something" come from "nothing"?
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Post by Caligastia Lanonandek on Nov 12, 2008 18:28:51 GMT -5
>>>Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume the universe has always existed? Where's the need for a creator?
And do your assumptions a reality make?
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Post by stateofmind on Nov 12, 2008 20:34:56 GMT -5
"And do your assumptions a reality make?"
It's a possibility just like the possibility of a God creating the universe but it's one that cuts out the middle man so it seems more reasonable to me.
Does your God unfold every flower and birth every child?
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Post by ophello on Nov 12, 2008 21:01:34 GMT -5
stateofmind, I have a question: are you asking these questions because of some sort of high-minded amusement?
Does the truth interest you at all or do you just stick with what you can see hear and touch? What makes you think ultimate truth is physically provable with current scientific methods? Truth can be accessed through you. You have to let go of belief.
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Post by Mortal on Nov 13, 2008 6:56:12 GMT -5
There is no evidence that man evolved from the ape and the 100+ year search for the missing link has never been found. (nor will it ever be). Did man evolve from something? Is there any truth to the Urantia Book claim that we originally evolved from some type of lemur? I'd also be interested to know of UB's information on the original human races is accurate. They claim the first race was the Andonites, followed by the six sangik races (which they claim all came from one family, which, they also claim, is unheard of since the normal evolutionary pattern is for these six races to gradually appear over time), followed by the Nodites. So their description entails 8 total human races, not including previous creatures they evolved from. |
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Post by stateofmind on Nov 13, 2008 12:33:41 GMT -5
Evolution is like a 1,000,000,000 piece puzzle. We've got a lot of parts filled out. The human section isn't immediately linked to any other part of the puzzle... but the parts we do have still make a lot of sense. It's not like the human part looks like it belongs to a completely different puzzle (I mean... come on.)
Of course, instead of continuing to look for the missing pieces, people will inevitably jump to the conclusion that the pieces don't exist.
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