Here's a thought

[RCBTraveler]

Aug 3, 2008 16:43:55 GMT -5 Caligastia Lanonandek said:

I think I should introduce your Manu to Betty Boop from Alpha Centauri - but she'd probably just kick his tail having less tolerance for BS than I.

Thats funny!!!! LOL But really, were actually speaking way above Betty's pay grade on Alpha Centauri Just below Jesus! If I have whom he is correct. Which I think I do, but I'm open to suggestions. As for detail ask Mark he is much more scholarly and eloquent than I. This was part of our conversation tonight.

Hare Krsna

RCB

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

>>but I'm open to suggestions

Here's my suggestion.

Get a life

Mine is already taken

[Transmag]

Dave -

The history of J. Krisnamurti is real and very well documented.
Like Jesus, his teachings were rejected by those in power end he spent his life in service to the people.

The man was a most remarkable teacher, truth seeker and liberator.

Below is an introductory paragraph.






Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Jiddu Krishnamurti


J. Krishnamurti cir. the 1920s
Born May 12, 1895
Madanapalle, India
Died February 17, 1986 (aged 90)
Ojai, California
Nationality Indian
Occupation public speaker, author, philosopher
Parents Narianiah and Sanjeevamma Jiddu
Jiddu Krishnamurti (Telugu: జిడ్డు కృష్ణ మూర్తి) or J. Krishnamurti (Telugu: జే . కృష్ణ మూర్తి ), (May 12, 1895–February 17, 1986) was a popular writer and speaker on philosophical and spiritual subjects. His subject matter included (but was not limited to): the purpose of meditation, human relationships, and how to enact positive change in global society.

Krishnamurti was born into a Telugu Brahmin family in then colonial India. In early adolescence, he had a chance encounter with prominent occultist and high-ranking theosophist C.W. Leadbeater on the grounds of the Theosophical Society headquarters at Adyar in Madras (now Chennai). He was subsequently raised under the tutelage of Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater, leaders of the Society at the time, who believed him to be a "vehicle" for an expected World Teacher. As a young man, he disavowed this idea and dissolved a world-wide organization (the Order of the Star) established to support it. He claimed allegiance to no nationality, caste, religion, or philosophy, and spent the rest of his life traveling the world as an individual speaker, speaking to large and small groups, as well as with interested individuals. He authored a number of books, among them The First and Last Freedom, The Only Revolution, and Krishnamurti's Notebook. In addition, a large collection of his talks and discussions have been published. At age 90, he addressed the United Nations on the subject of peace and awareness, and was awarded the 1984 UN Peace Medal. His last public talk was in Madras, India, in January 1986, a month before his death at home in Ojai, California.

His supporters, working through several non-profit foundations, oversee a number of independent schools centered on his views on education – in India, England and the United States – and continue to transcribe and distribute many of his thousands of talks, group and individual discussions, and other writings, publishing them in a variety of formats including print, audio, video and digital formats as well as online, in many languages.

[aften]

Thanks, Transmag.

I looked at some of his saying's. I will never know if we could sit down and enjoy a hamburger together. But I liked many of his saying's. However with stupid men (and Angels)one has to bring out the stick (war). I don't know what Jiddu Krishnamurti thought of war. But I think he is smart enough to know that pacifist don't win them.

While Jiddu Krishnamurti had creditability and seems to be an honest broker. During his lifetime how many wars were fought? Its not J. K's. fault. Its just an example of speaking to people that don't or can't hear. For legitimate and non legitimate reasons.

War comes down to the little guy's thoughts and beliefs. Not the guys at the U.N.

It is good that men (and Angels) will fight for truth and freedom. Anyone trying to undermine this truth is a deceiver (my opinion).

You can live your whole life and speak well. And teach peace. But if you have not taught your sons and daughters how to fight and win. You have betrayed them to the stupid men (and Angels).

[Caligastia Lanonandek]

Trans

To expand on Aften's comments on war.

I would describe Melchezidek teachings as mainly pacifist with a strong emphasis on not being contentious with others. The universal government used those teachings to enslave the population. So, what started off as a good and godly philosophy was perverted. This is not unlike how Middle Eastern governments employ Islam to hold their populations down.

Conversely, Mahatma Gandi used non violent resistance against the British (successfully). He could do this because he knew the Brits HAD MORAL LIMITS. Had he tried this against Hitler, he and his would have been slaughtered. Gandi shamed the Brits - Hitler knew no shame.

The first rule of war is to know thy enemy.

JOH 8 44 YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT

JO1 3 15 WHOSOEVER HATETH HIS BROTHER IS A MURDERER AND YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM

Consider these discriptors of the Ancient of Days (aka The Devil) the murderer. He would destroy all of creation to stay in power. Those who achieve such power have only one fear - losing it and he'll kill anyone who gets in his way. You, being from Earth ARE in his way. You've lived in freedom. He considers you a disease that could theaten him. Grabbing your ankles and saying "Yassa Boss" isn't in man's nature.

JO1 3 15 WHOSOEVER HATETH HIS BROTHER IS A MURDERER AND YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM

Factor this verse against RCW's comments re: annilhation of mankind and you get a pretty good picture.

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